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    nine nine nine
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      There’s no conspiracy or outrage against Chelsea CM it was a tight one on either frame and it again calls into question the validity of VAR judging offside decisions based on millimetres and whether some tolerances shouldn’t be built in in favour of the attacker.

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      #50905
      sean the sailor
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        At the end of the day, it was offside in the Chelsea game. It was very tight but the Ajax lad was offside and it’s no goal

        Offside is offside in my opinion even if it’s by a whisker

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        #50916
        Anonymous

          Offsides should be judged by the feet position only not other parts of the body

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          #50922
          nine nine nine
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            I kinda agree Moos problem with that though is goals can be scored with the upper part of the body and the head.

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            #50924
            Brian blue
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              No point in having technology if it is going to be interpreted by humans….what has changed. It is like smoke and mirrors analogy/ I would like it to work but they must find a way of stopping what is an increasing amount of debatable decisions…..this is not what it is supposed to do.

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              #50925
              nine nine nine
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                Here what you say Brian and that is the problem but technology is interpreted by humans in both Cricket and Rugby and it’s now accepted.

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                #50927
                Brian blue
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                  Nine…I maybe wrong with this but my recollections of the issues so far that mistakes are made by the human not the technology, although that needs to be improved as well.I feel that we have gone a step too far too quickly, the principle I accept the execution is questionable therefore not fit for purpose in my view. However, all is not lost if the powers that be sort the decision making a higher quality. It could be said, after all that effort if they had put the same effort into having Super Refs, the no nonsense types it could have been avoided in the first place!!

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                  #50928
                  Mikus LFC
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                    Technology should *always* be used as an aid, nothing more. But I think the problem is the technology is using us as opposed to us using the technology. What should have happened is what VAR was supposed to do – be used when clear errors had been found. But because the officials can now give offsides by the cm on screens, they are letting the technology use them rather them using the technology sparingly as and when needed for big errors. But then on other decisions, like fouls, the VAR officials are effectively rejecting the technology because they don’t want to harm the integrity of the on pitch referee. So we have this very bizarre inconsistency in the use of the technology. We’re over using it, to the nth degree in one regard, and rejecting it in another.

                    My solution. Get the refs to use the pitch side monitors when they need to, either for another look themselves if unsure or they’ve been told to look again if something may have missed. But give the on pitch referee the final call. And for offsides, build in a tolerance that accounts for real life swinging body movements as opposed to theoretical absolutism.

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                    #50993
                    Pagan
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                      I think the main difference between Rugby, tennis, cricket and football when it comes to VAR is the fact that when the offside decisions are given the ball is never shown. In Tennis and cricket it’s all about the ball, rugby it’s normally to to with the ball but in footy regarding offside which is probably one of the more controversial subjects it’s all about players position, showing the actual kicking of the ball may bring more clarity….Pagan

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                      #51050
                      Nike19
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                        Not seen the latest controversies surrounding VAR.

                        I agree a way to improve is ‘still cameras’ persons placed pitch-side.

                        Tennis have persons to make a call whether the ball is in or out, so I don’t see why Football can implement this.

                        Relaying Communication generally is straight-forward with the Headset and Mic – just need the Camera in the right place lol πŸ˜€

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                        #51051
                        Chelsea.man
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                          VAR got right with the Hudson Odoi one. the was stupid enough to dive in this age where VAR is available but then again young and naivety got the better of him.

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                          #51188
                          Chelsea.man
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                            I don’t know how James was given that Penalty ? it was similar to the one that VAR has overturned yesterday against Hudson Odoi. yet they allowed that?

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                            #51189
                            Mikus LFC
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                              Just catching up with the disallowed Arsenal goal…what a farcical decision that was.

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                              #51207
                              steveosnakeeye
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                                https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/premier-league/the-most-contentious-var-decisions-made-so-far-in-the-premier-league/ss-AAJsc7X?ocid=spartanntp#image=13

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                                #51228
                                Anonymous

                                  The irony that Arsenal and United used to get “all” the decisions… chuckles to himself…

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                                  #51229
                                  steveosnakeeye
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                                    i dont remember us having that 442, united yes, but us?

                                    maybe i didnt see it when we were good πŸ˜‰

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                                    #51234
                                    Pagan
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                                      442, Stevo,

                                      It’s a strange phenomenon, and it’s always been the same, the top couple or three teams think that there’s a conspiracy against them winning the league, whereas the rest of the league think the exact opposite and all decisions go their way….Pagan

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                                      #51237
                                      maverick1973
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                                        Both pens for United & the one for Liberoools were a fooking joke,not even close.Wtf was that winner denied for? VAR is a joke-shit in the words of my sexy Aussie tart.

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                                        #51251
                                        Hightown hope
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                                          Talking of which…has Chucky gone missing again? Wonder why!

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                                          #51258
                                          Anonymous

                                            I remember bad decisions Stevo- not enough to threaten the refs health though! ??

                                            That game against Liverpool and Barcelona though… un fooking real! ?

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