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    Pagan
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    Mr. Balance, it’s played with all of the body at the moment (that could change with young players if they ban heading the ball) but only 2 can use their hands…Pagan

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    nine nine nine
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    ……I try not to get too involved in any more discussion about the rights and wrongs of VAR and VAR decisions and I’ve not commented on whether VAR was right or wrong with their decision re Firmino.

    I was commenting on the PL’s explanation of the Firmino decision that his armpit was offside which made me think that maybe football needs to redefine the offside rules because I don’t think you can score a goal with your armpit.

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    Pagan
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    999, exactly, it needs to be clear and obvious, something that in real time the assistant should be expected to get right, not the micro analysis. I don’t think anyone would argue with that, it should only take one look and less than 15 seconds…Pagan

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    nine nine nine
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    Pagan, yep Sky proved the Linesmen got the decision right but based on what the Linesmen could see it was the wrong decision as you say “however it was by pure luck” the Linesman got it right.

    It’s not something to get excited about either way but in that situation love it or loathe it VAR would have taken out the guesswork of the linesman when at the time as I remember it and I might be wrong here but the instruction were to give the benefit of doubt to the attacker.

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    nine nine nine
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    “999, exactly, it needs to be clear and obvious, something that in real time the assistant should be expected to get right, not the micro analysis. I don’t think anyone would argue with that, it should only take one look and less than 15 seconds…Pagan”

    I didn’t go there mate and neither will I it’s just the explanation on the reasons for the Firmino goal being ruled out by the PL seemed a bit strange to me that’s all because you can’t score a goal with your arm pit. Which is why I questioned whether the offside rule might need tweaking.

    Won’t happen of course so it was pointless me raising it and as you rightly said we’re stuck with VAR. Whether we love it or loathe it or somewhere in between.😊

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    Pagan
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    999, so now the refs need to be anatomical experts, I guess by definition half of the armpit must be on the arm the rest on the torso, you couldn’t make it up. It’s like when you were a kid and played footy against your dad, he just made the rules up as he went along, a bit like the football in the film Kes….Pagan

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    nine nine nine
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    Pagan, you seem to be missing the point I was making I wasn’t defending the Firmino decision as per what I said.

    “it’s just the explanation on the reasons for the Firmino goal being ruled out by the PL seemed a bit strange to me that’s all, because you can’t score a goal with your arm pit. Which is why I questioned whether the offside rule might need tweaking”

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    sean the sailor
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    Var is a joke guys. Some of the decisions are just ridiculous.

    Ali has handled the ball just there. His arm is up. It’s taken 2 minutes for them not to give a pen. It’s a joke the way it’s been used. It’s a handball and pen

    Firmino was on side. They tried to find away to prove it offside as not to go againest the ref

    It’s actually ruining the game as they are getting clear decisions absolutely wrong

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    Pagan
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    I think we should get all the VAR incidents put together and bet on the decisions they come to. It seems totally random, we could call it univarsity challenge….Pagan

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    sean the sailor
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    Ha ha very good pagan

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    threeps
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    My point of posting the clip with Andy Gray (and apologies that it was pretty much the same as the post from Mikus, he posted his just as I was finishing off mine!) is not if the rules of offside need improving or better explanations or if the technology is sufficient for the task. It’s that the cretins that sit in front of a screen with all this technology still manage to make a total balls up. That clip shows Atkinson trying his best to show that the original decision was correct even when it clearly isn’t. Why? To come up with some BS about armpits is just deflecting the attention away from their own obvious failings.

    Even Mr Gray, who as Nil would say hates us :p is saying it’s wrong. He even shows that the new line is angled to meet Atkinson’s agenda.

    The whole system is corrupt, inept and a total farce.

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    Pagan
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    Just found a photo of the inside of Stockley Park….Pagan

    https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2018/06/22/17/54/casino-3491253_1280.jpg

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    Mikus
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    Is Paul the Octopus not still available? Had a good record from what I remember.

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    sean the sailor
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    Funny thing is, if the linesman hadn’t of flagged for offside, firminos goal would have counted.

    Even Andy gray of all people is saying it was a goal

    I’m not one for getting paranoid about refs but I’m really starting to think Atkinson has an agenda againest us.

    He’s a terrible ref.

    newbalance
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    newbalance
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    Martin Atkinson needs to remove himself away from the Prem.

    I don’t mind the length of time taken as such, but how did Anthony Taylor didn’t give a PEN from VAR? He’s actually a Decent Referee.

    I’m actually now a bit worried about next Sunday, something’s going to screw up in the hands of the Officials, because quite simply, they’re appearing to be more incompetent!

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