5th November 2019 at 3:52 pm #51914Brian blueParticipant426 pts
442…is that not the problem now…..too much off the field control and comment. I hate the statistics, invented for those that do not attend matches and to give pundits something to elude to there superior after the fact knowledge> lets get back to simple football, train referees correctly have two if necessary because some cannot keep up with modern speed. I live in hope7th November 2019 at 9:02 am #52003
Yesterday i witnessed the best way to use VAR at Santaigo Bernabeu, Real Madrid player was fouled in the penalty area and the referee at the time didn’t see the incident. but the VAR saw it and informed the on-field referee. then the on-field referee went to check the screen inside the stadium and checked. after that he came to the conclusion that it was a penalty and awarded it to Real Madrid while he booked the offender. that is the best way to use VAR it was still the on-field referee who was calling the shots as opposed to the third party that the Premier league uses. and yet the VAR was used with minimum disruption to the game.7th November 2019 at 3:42 pm #52047PaganParticipant371 pts
As you should know I’m a little bit anti VAR, but I will say it did work better in the CL games. The best example was the Apzi goal, which looked quite tight for offside, it took next to no time, whether they’re just exceptionally quick or they looked and said it’s not clear and obvious so go with the officials on the pitch I don’t know, but we didn’t get three minutes waiting round waiting for lines being draw to prove it was too tight to call. Still not a fan but it wasn’t quite as painful.
As for the two hand balls, both correct by the new laws, but I didn’t really think it was a deliberate hand ball and definitely not worthy of a second yellow, and if they’ve been instructed that all hand balls are cards why is it only applying to the defender?….Pagan
10th November 2019 at 8:48 pm #52081442Participant58 pts
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Brian.. like you I live in hope mate. Yes, I do honestly believe VAR is going to better the game, yes there are certainly teething issues with it in our league. It IS working better elsewhere, believe it or not, I still think the authorities are finding their feet with it and different leagues have slightly different approaches and all VAR changes will ultimately join up.
Is the rule difference between the pram and other leagues that Refs in the UK are waiting for their colleagues in the VAR room to get it right while in other leagues the ref must use the monitor? It does work better imo…
Certainly going to give VAR the benefit of the doubt this season, if everyone is still saying the same thing next season, then I can see the clamour for ditching it grow, and I’d probably support it. Its supposed to add to the referees ability, not undermine it. Got to get the people in black, yellow, blue, reviewing their own decisions as I think fans will agree with that more than a man in a box with a TV.10th November 2019 at 10:53 pm #52465
Again VAR will divide opinions. but i thought many of the decisions they got it right this week apart from the Sheffield United goal. but one thing that is still concerning is the time they are taking to make a judgement and the match referee looks clueless about it.10th November 2019 at 11:15 pm #52472
I accept that the referees were discouraged from using the pitch side monitors at the start of the season, but I’m still a bit disappointed in the referees themselves – they could still have used the monitors if they wanted to do – they were there and are still there. All it would have taken is one referee early in the season to have some guts and assertiveness to go and look at the monitor himself and show some leadership. This could well have caused a domino effect and given other referees the confidence to do the same. But instead nobody stepped forwards and now because so much time has passed nobody probably ever will for the rest of the season.
11th November 2019 at 7:39 am #52483Chelsea1967Participant88 pts
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what is it with VAR that despite too much time to look at an incident from a viewers’ perspective and multiple angles available they continue to stuff up? What is going on?11th November 2019 at 8:10 am #52487nine nine nineModerator915 pts
Still about personal opinions 67 and personal opinions are always open to conjecture.11th November 2019 at 9:06 am #52493Chucky McChuckfaceParticipant517 pts
VAR is still a joke as this weekend proved…11th November 2019 at 9:11 am #52496threepsParticipant175 pts
Did anyone see the VAR images of Salah’s goal with all those (sometimes angled) lines? I missed it, only an image with no lines where it was difficult to judge. Found it odd that sky.de, who I assume show the same broadcast as the UK, didn’t show it.11th November 2019 at 9:29 am #52498Chucky McChuckfaceParticipant517 pts11th November 2019 at 6:19 pm #52601PaganParticipant371 pts
Well VAR is doing well…..apparently11th November 2019 at 6:49 pm #52603
It will take a while for people to get used to this VAR thing. and the only thing that can cut its mistakes is to let the match official use the screen at stadium rather than rely on a third party to make a judgement. other than that, there had been good things that VAR has done. for example, Aubameyang’s goal against United was disallowed for offside by the linesman, and without VAR Arsenal would have left empty handed. there were also incidents that VAR has solved.12th November 2019 at 11:13 pm #52707
“Premier League referees are to be encouraged to make more use of pitchside VAR monitors, referees’ chief Mike Riley is expected to tell clubs later this week.”13th November 2019 at 7:14 am #52719442Participant58 pts
Mkius… Is this common sense? I do hope so… It is working in all the other leagues and I think it adds a little more to the way of excitement. Queue chants of dont know what your doing after the ref has gone to the monitor.
This just has to happen… fingers crossed.13th November 2019 at 12:21 pm #52761
442, it’s the obvious solution at the moment. But I don’t think it will change the farcical offside decisions.15th November 2019 at 8:56 am #52897steveosnakeeyeParticipant260 pts15th November 2019 at 9:03 am #52898AmzParticipant23 pts15th November 2019 at 9:20 am #52899steveosnakeeyeParticipant260 pts
my thoughts exactly…15th November 2019 at 12:24 pm #52924
Classic problem with committee type meetings like these. A lot of hot air and no actions.
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