4th November 2019 at 5:32 am #51833
Way way back, perhaps even before we started this thread, I said they purposefully hamstrung VAR and implemented rules along with it, so that the pro-VAR people would say “we don’t want VAR!”
We’ve got to be clear and together is saying that we don’t want their purposeful undermining of technology that could improve our sport.4th November 2019 at 5:54 am #51834
Should have been used in Son’s defence and reversed the red notwithstanding the horrible injury suffered, not directly as a result of Son’s foul.4th November 2019 at 8:40 pm #51882
Well, it turned out that Anthony Taylor who was the match official the Watford vs Chelsea game was the VAR official at Everton vs Spurs game. and Martin Atkinson who was the match official yesterday was the VAR official on Saturday. what was ironic was there was a similar incident that was given against Chelsea yet both officials didn’t check. inconsistency will be the downfall of this VAR system.
Personally. i would like it to succeed as it will improve the game. but it will not improve the game at its current state. unless radical changes are made. one option that everyone was suggesting was the match officials to use the on field screen. yes it’s a good idea. but then again that could be the same unless some else is judging as the views of the on field referee will always remain the same.5th November 2019 at 8:59 am #51889
CM… I just think allowing the ref to judge his own call is better than someone off the pitch. It still wont quieten down the screaming middle aged pundits and tv executives who ply us with analysis. Anal being the operative word here for the diet of twitter inspired bile they push out… Here’s what one sky pundit really thinks of you as fans… https://news.sky.com/video/carragher-spits-at-fans-after-being-heckled-112872155th November 2019 at 9:30 am #51891
Chucky McChuckfaceParticipant428 pts
I certainly agree with those who say the man in the middle should have the final call on all matters. Sure, have the VAR-Soles in the booth tell him he might want to review something on the screen, but having them “overrule” him just isn’t working… can’t take any longer than it does now, surely?
That, or adopt the “Phone a Friend”, “Ask the Audience” and other rules… 🙂5th November 2019 at 3:52 pm #51914
Brian blueParticipant237 pts
442…is that not the problem now…..too much off the field control and comment. I hate the statistics, invented for those that do not attend matches and to give pundits something to elude to there superior after the fact knowledge> lets get back to simple football, train referees correctly have two if necessary because some cannot keep up with modern speed. I live in hope7th November 2019 at 9:02 am #52003
Yesterday i witnessed the best way to use VAR at Santaigo Bernabeu, Real Madrid player was fouled in the penalty area and the referee at the time didn’t see the incident. but the VAR saw it and informed the on-field referee. then the on-field referee went to check the screen inside the stadium and checked. after that he came to the conclusion that it was a penalty and awarded it to Real Madrid while he booked the offender. that is the best way to use VAR it was still the on-field referee who was calling the shots as opposed to the third party that the Premier league uses. and yet the VAR was used with minimum disruption to the game.7th November 2019 at 3:42 pm #52047
As you should know I’m a little bit anti VAR, but I will say it did work better in the CL games. The best example was the Apzi goal, which looked quite tight for offside, it took next to no time, whether they’re just exceptionally quick or they looked and said it’s not clear and obvious so go with the officials on the pitch I don’t know, but we didn’t get three minutes waiting round waiting for lines being draw to prove it was too tight to call. Still not a fan but it wasn’t quite as painful.
As for the two hand balls, both correct by the new laws, but I didn’t really think it was a deliberate hand ball and definitely not worthy of a second yellow, and if they’ve been instructed that all hand balls are cards why is it only applying to the defender?….Pagan
10th November 2019 at 8:48 pm #52081
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Brian.. like you I live in hope mate. Yes, I do honestly believe VAR is going to better the game, yes there are certainly teething issues with it in our league. It IS working better elsewhere, believe it or not, I still think the authorities are finding their feet with it and different leagues have slightly different approaches and all VAR changes will ultimately join up.
Is the rule difference between the pram and other leagues that Refs in the UK are waiting for their colleagues in the VAR room to get it right while in other leagues the ref must use the monitor? It does work better imo…
Certainly going to give VAR the benefit of the doubt this season, if everyone is still saying the same thing next season, then I can see the clamour for ditching it grow, and I’d probably support it. Its supposed to add to the referees ability, not undermine it. Got to get the people in black, yellow, blue, reviewing their own decisions as I think fans will agree with that more than a man in a box with a TV.10th November 2019 at 10:53 pm #52465
Again VAR will divide opinions. but i thought many of the decisions they got it right this week apart from the Sheffield United goal. but one thing that is still concerning is the time they are taking to make a judgement and the match referee looks clueless about it.10th November 2019 at 11:15 pm #52472
I accept that the referees were discouraged from using the pitch side monitors at the start of the season, but I’m still a bit disappointed in the referees themselves – they could still have used the monitors if they wanted to do – they were there and are still there. All it would have taken is one referee early in the season to have some guts and assertiveness to go and look at the monitor himself and show some leadership. This could well have caused a domino effect and given other referees the confidence to do the same. But instead nobody stepped forwards and now because so much time has passed nobody probably ever will for the rest of the season.
11th November 2019 at 7:39 am #52483
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what is it with VAR that despite too much time to look at an incident from a viewers’ perspective and multiple angles available they continue to stuff up? What is going on?11th November 2019 at 8:10 am #52487
nine nine nineModerator731 pts
Still about personal opinions 67 and personal opinions are always open to conjecture.11th November 2019 at 9:06 am #52493
Chucky McChuckfaceParticipant428 pts
VAR is still a joke as this weekend proved…11th November 2019 at 9:11 am #52496
Did anyone see the VAR images of Salah’s goal with all those (sometimes angled) lines? I missed it, only an image with no lines where it was difficult to judge. Found it odd that sky.de, who I assume show the same broadcast as the UK, didn’t show it.
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