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Would probably add McTominay and Lingard to that list for Utd Chelsea man. That’s only counting the regulars. The likes of Pereira, Greenwood, Chong, Gomes, Tuanzebe are all getting chances for Utd too. Granted, ours don’t have as many top players (if any) to get past.
But let’s remember, this is THE best talent Pep has EVER seen, including Messi, Xavi, Lewandowski, Iniesta, Ronaldinho etc. If he’s really that good, it shouldn’t matter who is ahead of him should it?
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Agree it’s a strange one Mikus. If Foden really is the best talent Pep has ever seen, like he said, it begs the question as to why he neither plays him nor loans him out. If, as Pep suggests, he has a shyness problem and needs to assert himself more, I can’t think of anything more suitable than a season in the Championship like Mount had.
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Stones has always been a liability Adlab. Ok on the ball, poor defender. David Luiz in disguise.
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City look so poor today and Sterling, despite massive improvement in his game, still makes strange decisions with his final ball.
Can’t see City losing this still though. They’re too good to lose at Norwich
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Lucky, Utd weren’t amazing but neither were Leicester who I expected much more from. Considering the side we had out, the result is very positive regardless.
Huge win for your boys too. Still look shaky at the back but esrly days. I keep saying it but still way too early to judge Lamps. Still very much in the honeymoon period there.
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Huge win that for Utd considering the team we had out. Leicester with a fair bit of the ball but all looked like possession for possession sake. They didn’t particularly look threatening.
Maguire looked solid again at the back but the midfield and attack, even considering the absentees just looks so weak. Huge battle on for Utd to get in the top 6 with this side but one small step in the right direction, with the result if nothing else.
I have to say Tammy Abraham is looking like the real deal. I’ve never rated him whenever I’ve watched him but he’s banging them in and proving me wrong
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Gerrard was a hell of a player and IMO more complete than the other 2 but technically better than Scholes? Not even close IMO. Completely different players. It really is a pointless debate!
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Sean, I’m of the opinion Ole was the perfect caretaker after the Jose debacle. Exactly what the club needed just to halt the decline while the chief decision makers took stock of the situation and settled on a permanent choice. Giving him the job full time was incredibly naive, though.
Rashford, I’m not quite sure. Too often, he looks too eager to impress. I think he’s best off the left and lacks the composure and finesse to be a proper number 9. I’ve always preferred him, in fact, when he comes off the bench rather than starting. He needs to nail down a position though. Big season for him.
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Interesting Tugay. Which ones are fake. Here are the ones that stand out in quotes:
That’s the Zidane, Xavi and Guardiola quotes all in reputable media sources. Happy to be proven wrong in any of the others.
Genuinely interested which one/ones of those are fake?! Admittedly I only checked the best known players but please let me know which ones are fake that I’ve missed to check
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Yep Mikus, if I was a betting man, that’s where my money would be
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I’ve often described them both like this:
Assuming both were in their prime. If I was given a manager’s role and told I could buy one world class player and nobody else. I had to make do with the squad I had. It would be Gerrard every time.
If, on the other hand, my chairman said “go out and buy yourself a brand new team. Money isn’t an object” . Scholes would be one of the first names on my wishlist to build a team around.
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Mak, Gerrard was absolutely brilliant so you won’t be hearing me banging on about that debate. It’s a pointless one IMO. The three were completely different players and all had their own strengths. I’m sure many Utd fans feel the same way you do about Scholes, that they’ve had to listen to for years about how much better Gerrard was. That’s football fans for you.
Despite what Zidane said, Scholes wasn’t IMO a complete midfielder. He couldn’t tackle. He wasn’t very versatile in a positional sense. Gerrard was much more complete in that sense. Scholes wasn’t a match winner either like Gerrard. That’s not to say he didn’t massively contribute to Utd winning matches but he didn’t have the ability Gerrard had to single handedly win matches. Keane was more in the Gerrard mold than Scholes in that sense.
But when someone like Xavi says his one career regret is not having played alongside Scholes, it frankly baffles me that anyone can think he was overrated. He didn’t seek the limelight like many others in his generation. Didn’t threaten to leave to get a new contract. Didn’t even have an agent!
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But it’s not silly at all Sean. What was silly was giving such a huge job to a manager who won some stuff in Norway and took Cardiff down. Nothing whatsoever silly about there being pressure on him at this point. If he becomes a success at the club, it would be a miracle considering his managerial record to date and the squad he has available to him. We don’t have a single proper striker at the club. Neither Rashford or Martial are strikers IMO, nor do either have great records in front of goal.
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Can really see Leicester doing a job on Utd at Old Trafford. 2-1 Leicester wouldn’t surprise me one bit
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Probably first time I’ve ever heard of Scholes being overrated! IMO you only need look at what the likes of Pep and Co said about Scholes to realise he was IMO underrated for large parts of his career. The very fact he was shunted out to the left wing for England as probably the best passer of the ball England has ever produced is evidence of that.
Not intending to get into any pointless Scholes Gerrard or Lampard debate either. Merely susprised at anyone who thinks he was overrated
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Only messing Brian. Agree there is no need to rush Foden. I’d quite like to see him go out on loan though. As much as I don’t think he should be rushed in at City, you only have to look at what playing regularly did for the likes of Mount and Sancho. A season in the Championship to toughen him up a bit would do him the world of good IMO.
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No faith in Foden then Adlab? Bit like Pep then? ?
Yeah I mean every side in the world would be improved by the likes of KDB. But, by the same token, Belgium et al would be massively improved with Kane or Sterling in their side so it works both ways
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Not as sure as you Mav. The likes of Depay and Daley Blind, Ryan Babel etc for Holland are bang average. Sure they have some stars dotted around the sides but neither of their attackers would even make England’s bench imo. France are the side to beat at the moment. I don’t even rate Portugal all that highly tbh.
I’m not for a minute saying England are an amazing side. But on their day, they’d give any one of those sides you mentioned a game Mav.
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Chucky, agree it’s that CM position where that side looks weak. But put Foden and Mount in there in a year or so and I think there’s real quality there
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Mak, I’m not talking about winning an odd youth tournament though. A couple of seasons ago, England pretty much swept up at most age levels. That’s not a fluke. There’s no saying it will lead to anything but there’s a reason English players are suddenly in demand all across Europe
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