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  • #181132
    mancunian_mike
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    Foxy, Southgate has had to rebuild the England set-up from the shambles it was in. If you recall back when he was given the job, prior to the last World Cup, he was scouting at almost every EPL game because England had few quality players to choose from. He has selected youth out of necessity but those players need time in competitive matches to knit together and learn what it means to play in international games, including experiencing the pressure. Over the last 2 years, due to Covid, Southgate has had no opportunity to test, or bed in, any of the recently emerging talent (Grealish, Foden, Saka, Bellingham, Sancho, Philips, James, etc.); and so now he is having to do it on the fly, and he is (I think wisely) choosing to make the team difficult to beat first, to make sure we play more games and gain more experience, before committing more and more players to the attack. He is technically further behind in the rebuilding of the national team than Germany, Netherlands or even Spain are, and yet he is achieving better results with England, in less time and with less experience, than their managers and teams are. It will come but is not an overnight fix, be patient ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    #181143
    Nike19
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    Foxy, Good accurate point on tactics. I get the impression, it’s the opposite in implementation. We couldn’t create as many chances until Grealish came on.

    Looked like the formation had changed and there was more movement and passing options to get the cross into the danger area, effectively pulling apart Germany’s defense.

    I was cautious of us leaving this too late in the match and going into extra time meaning more physical demand.

    It’s Cagey and and Cat and Mouse. Some teams are happy just to plod along and try and Capitalize and or press the opposition unexpectedly.

    The Players need to be able to believe and trust in themselves with a 1-0 lead to go on to score more goals. A little bit of good fortune for us with the experienced Muller missing the target.

    I think above all Southgate will always try and be measured.

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    #181145
    Mikus LFC
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    I think we all accept the conservative approach isnโ€™t a bad thing in one sense regarding knockout games where mistakes need to be minimised. But at some point we obviously have to start taking more risks to actually score and itโ€™s ultimately about finding that balance and this is clearly what Southgate is grappling with in each game. Weโ€™ve found a way so far but that has been heavily dependent on Sterling who is a very positive player and can run with the ball into the final third. A high press on occasions can help, but isnโ€™t really sustainable. Itโ€™s a link man we really need in midfield. Not sure Henderson is that man. Thereโ€™s Bellingham but heโ€™s maybe deemed not experienced enough to be starting games. Yes he could come on later, but as Foxy says, this is effectively just playing the percentages and margins to stay in the game for longer then try and start going for it as the clock ticks down and the game starts opening up, but then both teams will potentially be more open. We really need a more thought out attacking plan earlier in the game which at least will lead us to having more chances and shots on target.

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    #181146
    Tugay is God
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    Well what an experience that was! Was sat behind the goal near the front and the atmosphere was incredible. Can’t wait to go back to Wembley next week for the Semi-Final, just got to hope we beat the Ukraine first! It’s coming home!

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    #181160
    D1rtyH4rry
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    Potential tie against Denmark in the semis could be very tricky. They will have a feeling of its our time again after everything thats happened. Tournament football quite quite often doesnt come down to the best team on paper.

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    #181161
    Brian blue
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    Mikus…agree with what you say but I also think an early goal would benefit the game as well but then you have to drive on for the next not sit back and play around the back line.

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    #181162
    Brian blue
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    Mikus…also agree…we have no “lineman”. henderson is the nearest and he is not a 90 minute player at this level now but he has good experience. I would not mind starting with him but only for 45 minutes, no longer

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    #181172
    FoxyFoxes
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    I personally think that link up midfield player we are looking for is Ward-Prowse, have done for a while but Southgate doesn’t seem to rate him

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    #181174
    Blaze
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    How can any manager even consider playing anyone that can not last a full game is bordering on madness even if it was Pele or Best, it’s a 90+ minute game and anyone that is selected must be able to last the full game. Theres definitely a need for more creativety especially in the final 3rd, Grealish is really the only one but Southgate needs to find another one, it’s probably the reason why Kane is battling. Anyway we should get past Ukraine although as we have seen they must not be taken lightly.

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    #181175
    sean the sailor
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    Harry, I thought Denmark were excellent versus wales. They played some brilliant football. They started slowly then moved christian into midfield and just took over.

    Tugay nice one mate. Pity tomorrow is not at Wembley as what an atmosphere. Football is really about the fans. Really makes such a difference

    One player who has impressed me in the euros is the Ukraine number 9 yarmchuck is a quality player and their danagervman. Scored some good goals

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    #181180
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    I mean, if I had to choose a team to knock us out, it would be Denmark. What a story it would be if they could go on and win it. England need to get past Ukraine though first. No such thing as a given in knockout games

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    #181185
    mancunian_mike
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    Cโ€™mon Ed, surely Denmark have already had their โ€˜unlikely underdog winningโ€™ story; even Greece have had one, isnโ€™t it Englandโ€™s turn ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    #181186
    mancunian_mike
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    Blaze, surely we already have 3 good midfield link players? Grealish, Mount and Foden can, and do, play that role for their clubs (Foden only occasionally though). Iโ€™m hoping g Southgate is just waiting until the team bed in a little more before trying it. I would love to see him try it against Ukraine.

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    #181187
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    Mike, don’t get me wrong, I’m behind England all the way. I just mean, given the choice, I’d want Denmark to be the ones to do it in the event we couldn’t. It would make a hell of a montage with the whole Eriksen thing and, who knows, maybe he could even lift the trophy at the end. Would be quite fitting. But forget that, come on England! ๐Ÿ˜

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    #181189
    Anonymous

    Spain is not the same quality teamnof years before but they do have a lot of luck, hop Sviss

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    #181190
    Nike19
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    Moos you’re definitely right.

    Been impressed with our Shaqiri. Swiss deserve to be level.

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    #181191
    Nike19
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    Haha, just as I speak. He’s a little terrier ๐Ÿ˜€

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    #181192
    Anonymous

    What the hell every slide tackle is a send off nowadays. One guy I can not stand is olivier, a laurel and hardy ref

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    #181193
    sean the sailor
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    Hope the Swiss can get to pens

    Spain really have been poor.

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    #181194
    Nike19
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    Penos is actually good considering the Red.

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