The Euros 2020/2021

[D1rtyH4rry]

Mike – Yeah I know mate. For that its worth I appreciate your positivity.

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[Young_blue]

What we have learnt from these Euros is that France, Crotia, Germany and Portugal and even Spain have had a disasterous Euros. While England, Italy and Belgium are having an inspired Euro 2020 tournament. from players side, Rahem Sterling is the standout performer in this touranment, Jorginho for Italy is also doing excellent, Pogba for France was also excellent, some notable mentions are Lukaku, Christensen, Declan Rice, Kai Havertz. on the other hand players whom alot were expected from them floppped in this Euros. they include: N’golo Kante, Mason Mount, Harry Kane, Griezman, Mpabe.

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[Mikus LFC]

Will City be as willing to trade in Sterling now? (if reports are true) or will they see it as an opportunity to increase how much they can get for him?

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[Brian blue]

Mikus…I believe Pep would let Sterling go, I would not agree with it and although I am not a Sterling fan few can match his work rate and City fans know he misses more chances than he scores but he does score. In that context to raise funds for Harry Kane would be the biggest mistake Pep will make and the club. I would rather go for somebody that will give us 6/7 seasons Sterling will only go to a top club anyway and that means strengthing the our competitors. Sterling is still young as well and keeps himself fit. I still see KDB as the false Nine with Grealish/Foden/Mahrez/Gungdogan buzzing around him. I see Bernardo,Jesus, Mendy, Cancello going in a fire sale because City need to conclude the squad for next season as soon as possible. I am only guessing what may happen though, no hint of anything firm yet

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[Brian blue]

PS..as a shot in the dark….Everton will sign Bernado…if….his mind is not that set on returning to Europe.

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[Mikus LFC]

It’s a good point about his fitness Brian. I think he’s only missed 15 games through injury in the 6 years he’s been at City and it’s always good to have that reliability. I know he can frustrate sometimes and that last season wasn’t his best, but he’s generally delivered for you over the years. I think in years gone by clubs were more desperate to hold on to their players but now they have more freedom and money to be less attached to players and are keen to keep refreshing to keep the squad fresh. Also, City are obviously going to hold on to Pep for as long as they can, so if there are to be no changes in manager, changing the players is how you keep the squad fresh.

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[Brian blue]

Yes, I think City will try and hold on to Pep but I think there will come a time when Pep wants a sabbatical and I am sure there will be an agreement, that time will be known, well in advance, by either side so the right person follows
For the moment, I doubt could get better conditions to work with, apart from our climate!!! If I see him going anywhere it would be to Italy, unprovenground for him as long as he wants the challenge but for now he is ours.
As to fitness, that is the one reason I do not want Kane, he is at the wrong age and picks up regular problems, he will not last a season with City style
For the money quoted not just a risk but a HUGE risk and in my mind cannot be justified, but then I am not paying out. Far better to go for somebody younger, hungry and will get some service life from him

True, players are getting younger now and many will burn out, it has happened to many. Agree, there is less attachment now than before, fans still like there “loyal”” players though but I think it is a diminishing role and player will be changed, some outof necessity, some out for squad improvement (in theory).

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[sean the sailor]

I agree a bit of what foxy is saying. I don’t buy that lads. It wasn’t a challenging group at all and one England should be winning all day long.

Croatia are well past it. The Czech Republic have done nothing in years . Scotland ??? Come on lads. Be objective. They are no European powerhouses That’s the worst Germany team in years but England can only beat what is front of them
And they have done enough to win the games

They are playing cautious pragmatic tournament winning football. They have every chance of winning it as no one has been exceptional and they don’t concede goals.

England have outstanding forward players . No issue with how they play. It’s similisr to the way Jose and Rafa played football. Create 2/3 chances a game, score and defend the lead. England were not great yesterday. It’s was very tight and England hadn’t created anything in the 2nd half until the goal . This hype this morning of its in the Bag bullshit from talksport etc is what turns neutrals off England.

I admire southgate. He’s been very brave. He’s made some big big calls and he’s got everyone of them right. He’s not letting the media get inside his head. He knows he would have been slaughtered yday if things went wrong. I like him and he conducts himself brilliantly . FairPlay to him

England could be better to watch but they are doing enough to win games. They have a good draw and no excuse not to get to the final and I hope they do for him.

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[Brian blue]

Mikus…I just want to add….it is said that we have to find a replacement for Augerro, well maybe, but we did OK last season and before without him. Previous to that he was magical, wonderful player but City were never an Augerro team. Spurs have been a Kane team in my opinion and there is no way he would over shadow any of the existing squad, he will be coming into a winning squad and would have to perform from first kick off.

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[nine nine nine]

For a minute I was thinking I was posting on the wrong thread.😊

“Right attitude from Kane “We’ve done nothing yet” hopefully that’s reflected across the whole squad.”

• This reply was modified 2 years, 10 months ago by nine nine nine.

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[D1rtyH4rry]

Thats an improvement on tactically inept and out of his depth for southgate Sean. I’ll take it.

Ps not sure if those were your exact words 😉

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[sean the sailor]

No Harry he’s surprised me mate with his decisions and he’s been brave. He’s very much his own man. Still think he can get a lot more out of this team. Those weren’t my exact words but I’ve no issue in being proven wrong but he’s done nothing yet. I doubt his management skills and compared him to past managers

Huge chance to win it now and absolutely no excuse not to get to the final now. The England squad kisses all over the Ukraine abd Denmark/Czech

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[nine nine nine]

Sounds easy on paper Sean.😊

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[Editor]

England fans are a pessimistic bunch and would, on the whole, not expect us to just wall past Ukraine on Saturday. You just can’t afford to be complacent. Look at what happened with the Netherlands, France and almost with Spain. Only takes a resolute defence and you find yourself in the lottery that is a penalty shootout.

Talksport is far from representative of the England fans Sean. It’s there to be controversial and get people calling in.

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[sean the sailor]

Ah look at some pundits etc Ed, you know what I mean mate. A good few go overboard

Totally agree lads. Anything could happen but England should be expected to get to the final now. If they don’t it be seen as a failure.

They have a brilliant squad full of top class attacking players. There should be no excuse againest Ukraine.

• This reply was modified 2 years, 10 months ago by sean the sailor.
• This reply was modified 2 years, 10 months ago by sean the sailor.

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[Editor]

They do over here in Sweden too Sean. Before the England game last night they were already talking about whether they want England or Germany.

I’ll be honest. I love that the pundits get completely into it at the big tournaments. Seeing them all going mental at Wembley yesterday while Klinsmann was gutted was great entertainment. I think International football punditry SHOULD be like that. It’s completely different to league punditry where they have to try to be impartial.

Not sure which pundits you mean but the ones I’ve seen on UK channels on BBC etc I’ve no problem with at all. Same applies when it’s a Scotland or Wales game and they have pundits from there on BBC or whatever. I want that at tournaments, personally.

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[Nike19]

D Harry, just to follow up on the post re Muller, I think perhaps it was taken by surprise that he missed. Maybe the perception is from his experience.

I was just thinking in context taking on board our history with Germany, it was nice for a change to get the ‘rub of the green’ 🙂

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[Nike19]

Nine, lol he’s tired mate 😀 The Engine isn’t quite there, but Kane delivered when it mattered 🙂 Cheers

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[Luckydestiny]

Simon Jordan is great on talksport imo

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[FoxyFoxes]

I just think Southgate employs a selection of tactics of very fine margins. In the last WC, his tactics were to go all out early, get a goal and then try and defend it for the remaining 60 odd mins. It didn’t work, because we didn’t have the midfield nor defence capable of defending against extended periods of pressure. Sweden and Colombia made us look like minnows because of that tactic. To Southgate’s credit, he seems to have learned from that as against Germany he didn’t do that and set the team up to play the full 90mins.
It just really frustrates me that we have this wealth of attacking talent, quite possibly the envy of most teams around the world and yet we play so conservatively and with no or very little attacking flair.
Additionally, Southgate has now been in charge for 4 years now, I think and yet the team has very little in terms of an established team. I mean, until this tournament, apart from Kane we had no idea which players were likely to start. No certainty over keeper, Maguire was probably the next sure fire selection but he was injured. Litterally, none of the other positions were of any certainty. How can you expect a team to play smoothly and well if they never play together. FFS, he even played players who weren’t even selected for the tournament in the games a week leading into the tournament.
If we look at the top teams in the world right now, they have a core of players that are pretty much sure picks every game. This gives the team stability and allows for the style of football to be embedded and therefore good flow. I don’t know how this is possible under Southgate. I would hazard a guess that Southgate has played more different players than any England Manager in history. I commend him for giving youth a chance, it is great but I think there is a time and place for this.

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