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  • #180274
    steveosnakeeye
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      I did say in the run in Ed
      Chilwell will be buzzing and on a high
      Better attacking from chilwell and a much better crosser of the ball
      Shaw better defensive tho so it’s more about who else plays and what you want

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      #180275
      Nike19
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        It makes me wonder whether Southgate has formulated a template (at the very least in his own mind), then be able to rotate his back 4 to keep individuals fresh.

        Both Shaw and Chilwell can be depended on. Reliable and Solid. I couldn’t say the same about Stones. Mings a Starter for me, but who would the other guy be? Maguire?, Coady?

        All depends too on players not picking up injuries in the early starters and the type of opposition faced.

        We’ve really got to develop character and trust in our own ability if we’re going to go far – the leadership and British-Bulldog-Spirit needed.

        I would love England to go all the way, one of the Reasons for Southgate.

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        #180276
        steveosnakeeye
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          Southgate will be the reason why we don’t go all the way

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          #180277
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            Better attacking from chilwell and a much better crosser of the ball

            That’s just not true Steve. I suspect you probably haven’t seen much of Shaw this season if you say that.

            Chances created per 90min
            Shaw 2.5
            Chilwell 1.2

            Shaw more crosses per 90. Much better cross accuracy. Better pass accuracy. The players voted him as one of the best in the league (over Chilwell). I totally get anyone choosing Chilwell but to say it’s not even tough after the season Shaw had means there’s no way you’ve watched him enough this season!

            https://www.squawka.com/en/comparison-matrix/?compare=MyLkjWB_IZBAhTaJUUceU

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            #180278
            nine nine nine
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              Both Shaw and Chilwell are very good players and there’s not a lot to choose between the two of them.

              Chilwell though has the impetus of winning the CL behind him and that’s the reason that if I was Southgate I would go with Chilwell but if Southgate selects Shaw I would still be just as happy with that.

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              #180279
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                Completely agree Nine. No arguments from me there. I was referring to Steve’s reasoning as well as his suggestion that it’s not even close. Very unfair on a player who’s been probably the best LB in Europe this season, certainly in the league anyway, as evidenced by his TOTY place. England are blessed for options in both FB sides and no combination would have me particularly concerned. Much more pressing matters in the selections.

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                #180280
                sean the sailor
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                  Lucky, I’m Irish mate but I like to see all the home nations do well especially Scotland

                  Are you a big A wales fan as chelsea mate?

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                  #180281
                  Nike19
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                    Nine, I said the same. I’m in nature to just taking players for what they are rather than pre-judging them because of their club shirt.

                    There’s a lot of players from that POV I’ve praised objectively.

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                    #180283
                    Nike19
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                      The BBC Coverage so far really is pants; why are they even Broadcasting?

                      It’s a narrative towards ‘waiting’ for Italy to find the back of the net.

                      No credit towards Turkey. They’ve not come to make up the numbers.

                      Just arrogance. Assessment should be judged on the overall balance of play.

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                      #180284
                      nine nine nine
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                        To be fair Nil they can only report what they see and in the first half without creating too many clear cut chances Italy were dominant.

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                        #180285
                        Luckydestiny
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                          Well I have seen wales live far more than chelsea Sean mate, but I would have to say my love for chelsea far outweighs my love for the Welsh national team because its true and no point pretending otherwise.

                          I was at pretty much every wales home game when Hughes was manager and we came so close to qualifying for world Cup. There when we beat Italy 2.1 that was an amazing night. Truth is though the standard of the Welsh team was absolutely awful as far back as I can remember and while you will always support your nation you can’t love dog poop no matter how much you love the dog. It was better than for decades previous under Hughes and the standards went up even more with the late Gary Speed effectively setting everything in the right direction.

                          This is only the 2nd major tournament I have seen my country play in!

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                          #180286
                          Nike19
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                            True Nine.

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                            #180287
                            Nike19
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                              3-0 Italians, nothing of unfamiliar territory. Turkey rinsed out through their hard fought application overall.

                              Late goals.

                              Boring.

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                              #180289
                              Luckydestiny
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                                Oh my god Luca bloody Vialli is sitting in the Italy dug out looking as sexy as ever! What a legend, delighted he is part of Italy set up.

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                                #180291
                                Pagan
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                                  On the bright side Lucky, at least you’ve only been disappointed twice…..Pagan

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                                  #180292
                                  Luckydestiny
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                                    P.s Sean, I get behind all the home nations too mate, was 12 euro 96 and remember being really upset when England lost on pens in semi final just couldn’t help wanting them to win.

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                                    #180293
                                    Luckydestiny
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                                      Wasn’t disappointed at all 2016 Pagan it was a blast!

                                      Over achieved last time, this time like then getting out of groups would be an achievement. Must win tomorrow for us really.

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                                      #180294
                                      Luckydestiny
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                                        Vialli still looking like a million dollars and mancini looking like Richard Lewis from curb your enthusiasm! The stresses of being a footie manager takes years off πŸ˜€

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                                        #180296
                                        Nike19
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                                          Rubbish Experience of Football. I didn’t Enjoy it in the Slightest.

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                                          #180297
                                          Nike19
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                                            Unfortunately for me, I have to work like a Dog to be free in watching WALES and Gareth Bale which I’m really looking forward to.

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