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  • #161689 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    Maguire was an idiot to put himself in the situation he did but the vast majority of footballers are idiots even before they’ve had a drink or four.

    Nobody other than those involved in the incident knows what really went on the fact that the case was so rushed to Court makes me uneasy as even if Maguire manages to overturn the verdict damage has been done to his reputation.

    There’s a bit more water to flow under this bridge yet I suspect if Maguire can’t clear his name though it leaves Ole with a decision to make on the United Captaincy.

    #161697 Score: 0
    AdlabAdlab
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    What I find as always, staggering. are comments from people, TV, press etc who werent even there. I also dont like the way we always assume ‘foreigners’ must be wrong and telling lies.
    This was epitomised by Southgate’s presumptions that Maguire must be telling the truth rather than lets wait a few hours to see the outcome of the court hearing.

    Perhaps the top clubs could write to FIFA and attempt to get Maguire banned as this might improve their chances.

    Skyunited reporting has been very poor on this too.

    Maguire is going to appeal but research suggests these sorts of appeals sometimes take months/years to come back to court. What then for Southgate?

    #161700 Score: 0
    Anonymous
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    people say innocent until proven guilty. he’s been proven guilty. so now he is guilty until proven innocent.

    #161701 Score: 1
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    Skyunited 😂. Don’t change Adlab! Hopefully Utd’s lawyers can get him off on the basis that this happened more than 5 days ago so is now time-barred…

    Nobody is assuming the “foreigners are telling lies”. Eyewitness accounts suggest there was a situation with his sister. Why wouldn’t the media pick up on that and report it?

    As for Southgate, think he played this perfectly. He has a chat with him. Maguire relays his side which Southgate accepts and it’s put to bed unless the situation changes. The situation changes. He sticks by his commitment to reassess and withdraws him. No idea how anyone can criticise him for that. If Lloris can still play for France after drink driving, I’m sure Maguire will continue playing for England after this.

    #161702 Score: 0
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    Yep totally Pax. I doubt it’ll be overturned. Interesting though about the medical reports (assume those relating to his sister)

    #161706 Score: 0
    sean the sailor
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    Conviction nullified and re trial will be held

    #161720 Score: 1
    Hightown hopeHightown hope
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    999…I know the point you’re making but to say ‘the vast majority of footballers are idiots’ is a little unfair to the real vast majority who aren’t actually idiots.

    #161721 Score: 0
    Nike19Nike19
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    The ‘timing’s not so good to be fair. I say this as there’s nothing really happening Football-wise, so coverage on this matter is a little more heightened.

    This should really blow over and be settled. I didn’t feel Talksport for example needed to turn it into a full-blown talking point, but that is what they’re about to reel in listeners as with the selling of Newspapers and the Mouse-clicks Online.

    There needs to be Time for the Dust to Settle (if allowed).

    #161722 Score: 1
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    Innocent > guilty > innocent.

    Can’t wait to see what happens next. If he is innocent and they were just trying to fuck him over then I hope he takes them to the cleaners

    Nike19
    #161724 Score: 0
    sean the sailor
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    Exactly Paxton chum

    Something not right about this from the start

    #161772 Score: 0
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    Latest interview. Will be very interesting to see what happens in the retrial.

    #161773 Score: 0
    sean the sailor
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    Good luck to him as I think he’s be done over by the Greek police from what I’ve read etc.

    I sense a miscarriage of justice and I hope he gets off as I believe him

    #161774 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    Whether Maguire is guilty or innocent which is impossible to determine either way imo until all the evidence has been heard from both sides at the Appeal, the trial should never have been rushed through as it was which has led to the requirement for an Appeal in order for a Judge to hear all the evidence in a proper and considered way.

    Maguire was foolish given his profile to have put himself into such a position but he isn’t the first and he won’t be the last hopefully it’s cleared up and doesn’t cast a shadow over his career going forwards for both United and England.

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    We know slab head has nothing but concrete between the ears. He has confirmed this by doing the bbc interview.

    The man has been found guilty and deserves all the scorn coming his way and the loss of captaincy and his England place.

    England captain wants usual summer holiday with no thought about his life and job and high visibility factor. Bent coppers or not, he’s shown zero acumen or intelligence. Was probably drunk too… there are better players coming through so his time as an England defender should be up.

    Look at the difference between how the clubs reported this. Cfc and gropey hands odoi v the slab and United. Should have said naff all and taken the guilty verdict and been thankful he wasn’t bummed in jail. That would have really made him cry.

    #161777 Score: 0
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    He was sat in shorts in the interview he could and should have pointed out the bruises if the police did beat his legs saying he will never play again?

    #161779 Score: 0
    Mikus
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    Just one observation. When detailing the incident Maguire is constantly looking down and never makes eye contact with the interviewer. Not the best body language.

    #161781 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    Must be guilty then.😀

    Either that or Maguire hasn’t been correctly schooled on how to be interviewed on TV in a difficult situation.

    #161783 Score: 0
    threepsthreeps
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    Response from the Greek prosecution lawyer regarding yesterday’s interview:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8673327/Greek-lawyer-savages-Harry-Maguires-ridiculous-account-Mykonos-bar-brawl-blasts-BBC.html

    There are a lot of holes from his interview. My only opinion is that the interview was ill-advised and he should of just let the justice system do it’s thing. If he is then found not guilty he could tell all. I cannot see the benefit to himself in doing it before the retrial.

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    #161785 Score: 1
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    Incredible how many body language experts exist now. It must be a lucrative career choice. Every other poster on Twitter seems to know what really happened! 😁

    The truth is none of us know. Crazy how much fuss has been made about it all though. Much less was made of the fact Lloris was caught red handed drink driving, for example.

    #161787 Score: 0
    Mikus
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    Doesn’t mean his body language isn’t worth examining though Ed. It can be quite useful to look at it when you have conflicting reports.

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