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  • #113412
    maverick1973
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      6 Watford players tested positive???

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      #113413
      Brian blue
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        Mav…Oh dear…now what happens to all the plans. Well, I am thinking more of the plans to make plans for a planning meeting!!!!!!

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        #113414
        Brian blue
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          From what I have seen of different teams training, they looked a happy lot and why not….having a chat with friends, maybe 20/30 of them. The question remains, if players refuse to sign the disclaimer what will the League do? I would like football back soonest but unless the risk is dramatically reduced over a period then we will have to wait and concentrate on the more important aspect of getting people back to work and Companies start there business again. That should be taking the column inches up not sports gossip.

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          #113415
          Chucky McChuckface
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            https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8350697/Borussia-Monchengladbach-face-Bayer-Leverkusen-13-000-cardboard-fans.html

            I found this quite amusing…

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            #113416
            Pagan
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              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-52702075

              I found this quite amusing as well…..Pagan

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              #113420
              Shiney
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                Don’t know if this has been mentioned in the 100+ pages but I’ll say it on the chance it hasn’t.
                I had a Skype chat with a couple of my oldest Spurs mates during the week and this is what came out. If the league starts again and teams get relegated and others confirm their places in Europe, we agreed that there will be legal proceedings by some clubs. It’s a well known fact that when football stopped Spurs (just an example) had Kane, Son, Bergwijn and Disco out making a poor X1 even weaker, this gave the teams fighting to stay in the league and those trying to secure a European place a big advantage, and rightly so as injuries happen to all clubs. When we restart, which I don’t agree with for personal reasons, all 4 of those players will be fighting fit, making Spurs a totally different animal, probably beating the relegation teams and depriving them of the points they may have got from us.
                The conditions pre-Covid cannot be replicated now all teams have fully fit squads, so teams who might have survived the drop may now go down, and the teams in European spots might lose out to others who now have their best players back.
                I probably haven’t worded this too well but I hope it makes some sense. In my opinion the season should be abandoned , Liverpool should be crowned as Champions and the teams in the European spots should get them (Spurs dip out ) and relegation should be scrapped with the top teams from the Championship promoted to a bigger than usual Premiership, that is the only fair way to avoid large scale legal battles due to the massive loss of revenue for the teams involved.
                Rant over!!!

                • This reply was modified 3 years, 11 months ago by Shiney.

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                #113422
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                  Parklane, you say that’s the only way to avoid large scale legal battles due to loss of revenues but I disagree. Don’t you think the likes of Utd, Wolves, Spurs and Sheff Utd would challenge their inability to secure a CL spot and all the extra revenue that would bring. Those all being bigger clubs than the relegation threatened teams would no doubt have more money to put behind such a legal battle.

                  We saw with the furlough scheme how much of a priority reducing potential losses is to the likes of Spurs and Liverpool and this would be no different. There is no solution which suits everyone. I think the argument that the top teams now have full strength squads would actually be one of the weaker arguments of the ones out there. Surely, all squads would now have fitter squads to pick from? You can’t say “But the bigger clubs have better players so they have more of an advantage of having a full strength squad”. Every club went into the season with the squad they put together. That other teams now have less injuries is hardly a case for legal proceedings. Just my opinion.

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                  #113423
                  maverick1973
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                    Lazy Eddy from Sweeded & Spudsy fan-You are both just touching on a couple of hundreds of reasons as to why there is no perfect solution to the mess this has caused.

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                    #113425
                    Chucky McChuckface
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                      As Goose says, quack there is no solution that will suit everyone, the nearest you’re going to get to that is simply play the season out. Then there can’t be any as many complaints as there could be with other solutions.

                      At least YooUtd will have Pogba back too… πŸ™‚

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                      #113429
                      Shiney
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                        Ed, as you say there are many more financial reasons for clubs to seek legal action, as for Spurs looking at a CL spot I really hope they don’t as they don’t deserve one, but the teams currently occupying those positions do, so depending on City’s position Liverpool,City? Leicester , Chelsea and potentially Utd get the CL places, with Wolves and Sheffield the Europa places.The FA need for the first time to make the right decision and kill this season now.
                        How people are even thinking about starting makes me fucking rage, I’ve now lost 2 of my mates and my 1st ever girlfriend from childhood , people are dying in huge numbers every day and footballers are testing positive for Covid , great time for football to start ………………not

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                        #113433
                        maverick1973
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                          Parky-Its the only logical course to follow considering the circumstances,but they are sick cunts who only think of money.

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                          #113434
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                            Sorry to hear about your losses Parklane.

                            Just to play devil’s advocate. I get the fact that people only want football to restart when it’s safe to do so. The problem with that is that we may have this situation for years. If no vaccine is found for another 10 years, are we suggesting then that we shouldn’t even try to get something back up and running again?

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                            #113435
                            Brian blue
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                              Ed. What we know now, and that is little I suspect, that there will be an on going problem. I also think that just about every ket Pharma Company will be trying to solve this, because it means big bucks to them. It maybe said the country needs football, I would say, Sport more than football, however what people are also aware of the clamour to get it started is commercially driven. This opens up a new era to something we did not want, litigation in whatever form it takes.The legal profession will be working overtime on this. The nervous now about that and WHO takes responsibility for striating the game is the issue, The media may champion the cause but will not take any responsibility. It is also under stable if the organisations concerned are not willing to take that responsibility then you can hardly expect players, refs etc to do so. Then there is the wider public to consider who at some point will be in contact with the numbers who will be active in the game. My question then is “Who will take the responsibility??
                              I still fall back on my priorities in getting business, shops and services back before sport and particularly football the cash cow of the betting world. That is my pennyworth Ed

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                              #113436
                              Brian blue
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                                Ed..what I am suggesting is getting people back to work, shops open schools open…..football has to wait, no matter how long. They will start it because money will drive it but I would like to know just exactly WHO said it will be safe

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                                #113437
                                threeps
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                                  I fail to see why getting people back to work and starting football again are dependant on each other.

                                  By the way who isn’t back at work in the UK yet? Pubs and restaurant workers I assume, but are not the rest of you back now or doing home office?

                                  Read that Emmerdale started filming this week. Now I am no expert on that show but I could guess that the world does not actually need Emmerdale, even less so than football! But they started filming again. Why? Maybe because people are seeing the need to get things going again in all aspects of society.

                                  People are still dying, it’s shit. People like Parklane have my condolences, this must be a truly dreadful time. However without trying to sound arrogant but life does go on and we all need to learn how to make steps forward. This could be here for years.

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                                  #113438
                                  Mikus LFC
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                                    There is apparent risk to footballers heading the football over a long period of time but I don’t see big campaigns to stop heading in the game. This virus is obviously nasty but it isn’t as fatal as first feared, particularly to the younger and healthier population. Where most governments have failed is in protecting the vulnerable groups and indeed in the lockdown actions taken by the government by clearing people from hospitals to care homes without testing them, some measures have arguably done more harm than good. Meanwhile the economy is being destroyed which will kill more people in the long term not to mention a drop in funding to the NHS from a damaged economy.

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                                    #113439
                                    sean the sailor
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                                      What do you guys make of all the coverage Cummings is getting now?

                                      Huge fallout over this and it’s huge news everywhere.

                                      Another saga that is making the English government look quite foolish.

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                                      #113440
                                      Pagan
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                                        MPs, advisers etc are clever people and good problem solvers, maybe if they all sat down together no matters which party they belong to or what beliefs they have and put their minds to the problem in hand, rather than spending their time trying to score petty points against each other they may find that they get a bit more respect than they currently have….Pagan

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                                        #113441
                                        Brian blue
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                                          Pagan it is what it is….and you say…….political games played out in front of your very eyes. Cummins, I do have a view…he was wrong…he should have resigned last week now Boris has dug a hole for himself Every party has had its rule breaker, for me, no political points there. The media has nothing better to do so will find another story when this wraps up. It will be interesting to see what Boris but more important what Gove does…he will see an opportunity arising here.

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                                          #113442
                                          Brian blue
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                                            Sean…you are right…it does make us look not only foolish but stupid as well. However, it is not unique to UK

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