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Why spend £50m+ on Kalvin Phillips, just to keep him on the bench and not play him when Rodri is unavailable?

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Why was it underserved Adlab?

City haven’t exactly played well.

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What a goal by Martinelli.

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Michael Oliver is the same ref who sent Di Maria off for putting his hand on him to get his attention

Yet didn’t have the bottle to send Joe Hart for this

Michael Oliver, who bottled this with Joe Hart & then sends Buffon off, for something less obvious, loves to ruin a game 🤷🏻‍♂️ pic.twitter.com/pcoUGrBc7D

— Football Tipster (@Footy_Tipster) April 11, 2018

The PL seriously need to look at who is on the UAE pay list

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Where’s the consistency?!!pic.twitter.com/am1RcQGEya https://t.co/W4HSorqv0r

— ☈ッ (@TheFergusonWay) October 8, 2023

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Arsenal have played 5 at home too.

Think it is down to policing the games at some point United are going to play 2 away games on the trot a number of times.

Brighton will always be a tough fixtures for anyone.

Villa will be a tough place to go.

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Mikus-

Between October to March, United played some good football and were winning games convincingly. You cannot judge a side because 3 other sides didn’t turn up.

It is the managers job to motivate the players. They were motivated last season, reason why they got far in 3 cup competitions and ended up 3rd in the league. That is better than what any manager has achieved after Ferguson. So what has changed this season?

Ten Hag cannot babysit Sancho, who was kicked out by Pep and was fined by Dortmund for the very same reason Ten Hag has dropped him for. Sancho has next to no clout in that side, he hasn’t delivered for 3 different managers. Ten Hag gave him time off last season and brought him back. There is only so much he can do. If you create a culture where players can get their way, then no manager can come in and remove that unless he is given time and allowed to. That has an overall impact on the side and who’s fault is that? Ten Hag walked in to that culture and now the players are treating him no different to how they treated Ole, Jose and Van Gaal.

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Then you ask the question, why is Ten Hang not getting the results?

People forget Pep struggled during that 1st year in charge, he lost 4 nil to Everton and struggled against a fair few sides. So did Klopp the 1st few years at Liverpool. Didn’t they lose to Wolves in the FA Cup, who were in the championship at the time. But the players were putting a shift in. The United players are not.

I mentioned Rashford earlier. Why has his work rate dropped compared to last season? Is Ten Hag telling him to do that. If players are upset with the way Sancho has been treated and have stopped playing for the manager, then it is pretty much the same old story since Ferguson left.

If the players are putting the effort in and the results are the same, then you can say the manager is not getting something out of the players. But they are not putting the effort in. It is complete contrast to last season and exactly the same fate the previous managers suffered.

I know someone who is a season ticket holder and has been since the late 60s. He says even when United at their worse in the 70s and 80s, they turned up and put a shift in. It was the players were just not good enough. He says this time round, you can tell they are not playing for the badge….it takes a few games for people to see that.

Ten Hag last season came 3rd and helped them win their 1st trophy in 6 years. That is better than what Klopp and Pep accomplished. That should give someone enough authority to prove he is capable.

If Ten Hag gets sacked for this. That is me done with this club. I am not going through another cycle of watching players who are on 300k a week, sulk around and not care. Then they will throw the next manager under the bus.

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I don’t know who can come in and make difference. I genuinely believe Pep and Klopp would struggle because it would take them years to fix the problems in place. Pep played it well, he got rid of the egos i.e. Yaya Toure and built a team.

Same with Klopp with Sakho and others.

At United we allowed players like Pogba and Lingard get their way. Now Ten Has is setting an example with Sancho, there are some in the camp who are disappointed with the way he has been treated. So who will win in the end? It will be Sancho, just like Pogba won his battle against Jose.

Rooney once mentioned that after a disappointing defeat, himself and Carrick arrived at training the following day with Lingard and Pogba dancing in the changing room. Would Pep and Klopp ever stand up to that? United did and let them get away with it for so long.

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In my opinion, the problems are not solely down to the manager. The position has become a poison chalice.

The culture at the club has become rotten. What we are seeing now is exactly what we saw when Ole, Jose and Van Gaal tenures were coming to an end. This is down to the owners letting players get their way for far too long.

The manager at times hasn’t helped, but that doesn’t excuse the lack of work rate and effort from the players. You look at how they performed last season to now, yes there was some heavy defeats, but they got 76 points(the 2nd highest points total post Ferguson).

When has qualifying for the CL become acceptable? What happened to winning big trophies.

The owners said they wanted to sell the club 11 months ago, yet we have only had 2 serious buyers. Why is a club like United only attracting 2 buyers? Is it because there has been massive neglect on other areas, which resulted in them falling behind clubs and will cost a fortune to help the club catch up.

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Unfortunately I cannot enjoy a win like that Sean.

All it is has done is paper over the cracks.

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Isn’t 10+ minutes the norm for injury time minutes now, Arsenal scored twice in the 96th minute and 101 minute earlier this season.

Bitter sweet game. Didn’t deserve that. As soon as Rashford comes off, we start attacking more and start playing like a unit. Something doesn’t seem right with him. Like I said he is either playing injured or doesn’t have the hunger anymore. If it is the latter, sell him to PSG when they lose Mbappe and we can rebuild after him. No need to keep players who are not playing for the club.

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Well these bunch of adsholes have stopped playing for the manager.

Sack the squad before sacking the manager now.

Absolute disgrace bunch of prima donnas.

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Not confident today. Like Brighton, Brentford are a well drilled side. Maguire starts and 1 of Lindelof or Evans playing FB.

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Cole Palmer is from the same place as Anthony Taylor, which side does he support?

The myth about Taylor being a United fan was started by Liverpool and City fans on Twitter claiming him and his “siblings” supported United. Taylor only has 1 sibling and she works for the NHS. Perhaps do some fact checking before going by lies.

If you ever watch United games with Taylor officiating, he is anything but a United fan with the amount of decisions that go against us.

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I doubt any manager could come in and change the fortunes at United unless they are given time. It took Ferguson 7 years to remove out the culture that was embedded previously. Imo this is much worse. The manager is under more scrutiny with the money spent and it is easier to leak things to the press.

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Darren England will not officiate another Liverpool game this season.

Now we know he is on the UAE books, he shouldn’t be officiating any games involving City and their rivals.

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I predicted Onana is going to be next Barthez. So far, I am not far off.

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As Alfie said, let’s see we’re utd are in a few months time. No need to panic yet at sll

From what I have seen so far this season. I rather not wait and see.

I have already started making predictions for next season. United to win the league after giving Ryan Giggs 400m to spend.

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The reason why Martinez was getting skinned is because he was playing injured and it was revealed he was brought back too soon after last season’s injury. That is all on Ten Hag for allowing to happen, now he is out for 3-4 months.

Liverpool lost Van Dijk a few years ago after that challenge by Pickford. They badly missed him because the players who came in were not good enough. I remember when we lost Rio for 9 months and Wes Brown had to cover for him. Rio was the leader at the back, once we lost his quality and leadership, our season fell apart.

I believe if you lose 1 or 2 players in different areas, then there isn’t an excuse. But if you have lost 4-5 in the same area of the pitch, then you are pretty much buggered.

There is only so much the manage can do with the quality he has to choose from. There is a reason why they are 3rd or 4th choice.

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