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On the sportswashing aspect, it’s not far wrong Nine that article. If indeed it turns out to be a state ownership, which is far from as concrete as the article suggests, then it’s spot on. I find it a tad contradictive though. The last paragraph is accurate in saying that Utd don’t need a sugar daddy. They simply need an owner who doesn’t take a billion and a half out of the club. It’s that simple.
It seems to have worked on many supporters, mainly those prepared to turn a blind eye to almost anything in return for star signings.
To then suggest that those opposed to state ownership would be swayed into no longer opposing them because of new players coming in? What, those new players which the club have earned the right to buy through decades and decades of history and success? Those players? If we get star signings, it will not be because of state ownership. A nice idea, the article, but it’s very much missed the point. To suggest we’d have the Qatar ownership to thank for star players joining the club (and ultimately anti-Qatar fans would therefore turn a blind eye) is, frankly, a joke. It’s like saying we should thank Qatar for such a good World Cup. The World Cup was a great WC despite the Qataris not because of them, just as good players would continue to join us after any possible Qatari ownership just as they have done before. Did Utd fans stop protesting against and turn a blind eye to the Glazers when we were successful under their ownership or when we bought good players under their ownership? Absolutely not. The protests have continued all through the successful years and beyond. There will be a generation of fans, and I’ve always said this, that don’t care one bit who owns the club and that will always be the case. But, to suggest those opposing state ownership would be swayed by a new player coming in suggests the writer is not at all clued up on how the fanbase works.
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Rip
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1967 completely agree. No way they’re getting rid of Potter so soon. As you say, you hire a manager like Potter then you know it’s a long term project. They’ve clearly planned the side and the backroom/boardroom staff around Potter’s vision so to get rid of him a few months later would be absolutely crazy.
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Klopp getting absolutely hammered for telling Liverpool fans after last May after going out to Real Madrid:
“Where’s the final next year? Istanbul? Book the hotel”.
Can’t believe he came out with that! Hope nobody took him up on it.
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What’s happened to Liverpool’s defence? Used to be solid with that same back 5. They just seem a shambles at the moment.
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Wow, incredible stuff at Anfield.
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None of us choose who owns our clubs bit we absolutely can choose how we react and speak about that ownership/sponsorship. It’s a sad state of affairs that football has become this state playground which now has fans comparing owner net worths instead of trophies.
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Just wait Chucky till they get their hands on your lot 😁. We all know Qatar and Levy have been talking.
Look, I’ll be really disappointed if Qatar do buy Utd and it indeed proves to be state ownership masquerading as private investment. I am massively against this kind of ownership and don’t want my club being used as a tool for a state to wash clean it’s image. If that happens, I wish I could be strong-willed enough to stop supporting them in protest but I just dont think I could. Utd fans have a history of protesting against potential (bskyb) and actual (Glazers) owners despite successful periods (or the promise of in the case of the former) under them. If that indeed happens, I can only say that the club would deserve all the criticism coming its way and those Utd fans who oppose this kind of ownership will need to do what we’ve been doing the past 20 years and be able to separate club and owner whilst continuing to speak our against the ownership. That hasn’t been done anywhere near enough by City, PSG, Newcastle and Arsenal IMO.
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Why stop at City, Newcastle and PSG Steve? If it’s all just the same because you’ve decided it is, then I’ll put Arsenal in that group too for their Emirates sponsorship 😁
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Yeah I agree Mikus. I sense a bit of naivety which is probably inevitable in owners who are new to football.
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Wow, big news if true
Mauricio Pochettino turns down Chelsea approach to replace Graham Potter.
Chelsea showed interest late last week, and the former Spurs man was targeted but he was not keen.
Chelsea won't remove Potter without a plan.
— Simon Phillips (@siphillipssport) February 21, 2023
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As you say Sean,it wouldn’t make a huge difference to what we spend on players but the simple fact we’d no longer have no much money taken out of the club and could compete with the top clubs on facilities, stadium, youth investment would mean we’d be able to compete for the likes of Haaland, Bellingham etc. Currently, we’ve absolutely no chance of getting that kind of player. Casemiro, Varane etc don’t come to us in their prime, they come when they’re reaching an age where Madrid deem them sellable.
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It’s an absolute fact that this wouldn’t be State ownership per se, whichever way you angle it. That there is state involvement is very much open to conjecture but the insistence from Qatar is this is very much not a State bid.
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This is in the Athletic this morning Sean so who knows
And The Athletic has spoken to one Gulf expert who agrees.
“I wouldn’t necessarily see this as a ‘Qatari’ bid,” says Gerd Nonneman, a professor of international relations and Gulf studies at Georgetown University in Qatar.
“Sheikh Jassim doesn’t hold any government positions, nor, indeed, has his father done for many years. Much of the son’s fortune is based on his father’s wealth, which is thought to run into the billions, further enhanced by his own involvement in QIB and other business ventures.
“So, contrary to the investments in Bayern Munich (a Qatar Airways sponsorship deal) or PSG, which were done by entities that were largely funded by the state and/or very senior members of the ruling family, this case is different.
“Of course, we don’t know who else, apart from HBJ, might have a stake in Sheikh Jassim’s Nine Two investment vehicle, but there doesn’t seem to be any controlling stake by any government entity of any of the actual ruling group.”
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Yeah I agree re FSG. Though I’d suggest the FSG model only works when you have an elite coach so with them now staying, Liverpool badly need Klopp to get the side back to where it was.
Oh it’s a very real possibility that the Glazers stick around. It’s always been speculated about that an option is for Joel and Avram to buy the other siblings out.
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😁 fair answer. Things looking on the up now though. Liverpool seemingly given up now on selling though after little interest in buying them for what FSG wanted. Crazy how fans of both clubs have been pining for state ownership. It really has divided both fanbases. Spurs too after the Qataris were after them.
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Who upset you Harry? 😆
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No idea Sean. Will have a listen. Probably a massive hypocrite though like the majority of them are. Which podcast is it? I can only assume he’s judging the Qatari deal on the alleged fact that it’s a private investor but, as I say, haven’t listened to it.
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Yeah I don’t think we could have argued had it been given. Wouldn’t surprise me if these kind of tackles start to get clamped down on as there have been a few like that this season. I think McTominay had one earlier in the season. Roberston and Fabinho both got away with one vs Brighton recently and Saka got away with this one yesterday
You people are always the first ones to cry foul.. saka did this yesterday and nothing was done .. rubbish pic.twitter.com/fX2938D5ls
— MR_BOOOMBGUY (@INCREDIBUUUUU) February 19, 2023
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Madrid are way off it this season too Sean. Miles behind Barca now in the league. Usually they step it up in the CL but I think this could go either way. Bookies have you level with Real to win the whole thing and I think that’s probably about right.
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