5th September 2019 at 1:07 pm #47114
EDITOR AND ALL UTD FANS
To be fair this may also be of interest to non utd fans, but check this video out about how fergie adapted through his reign at utd. If you go back to my post @1.29pm (page 2) you will see how these changes are also highlighted by the GF/GA average and fit with the analysis in the vid also
Personally I think it shows just how much of a genius manager SAF was, he could always go again and rise to the challenges others bring. Arsenal raised the bar, utd responded, then chelsea, utd responded, then city and utd responded. He truly was a class apart.5th September 2019 at 1:15 pm #471155th September 2019 at 1:19 pm #47116
Its true though banjo, all heads must bow, and all tongues must confess, fergie was the boss.5th September 2019 at 1:28 pm #47117
Domestically yes, unrivaled across Europe with regards to domestic domination, I have no problem saying that, but in Europe? Towards the top of the tree, but perhaps not the very top!!
Anyway, he turned down the Spuds before he went to UnYooUtd, always a tosser in my book! 🙂5th September 2019 at 1:35 pm #47118
Not many managers have won 2 european titles though. In the older days when liverpool and others won it as often as they did, there wasnt as many elite teams to be fair. With the likes of Juve, munich, madrid and barca amongst others, a champs league was always a tough ask. I dont think Fergie always had teams full of world class players either, and man for man I think most seasons there were better squads throughout europe.5th September 2019 at 3:02 pm #47119
That was actually an interesting video. Quite like how United played in the early 90s when they had Giggs and Kanchelskis. The level of their pace meant they keep to an orthodox full-back system which meant opposition teams could find very little space to exploit their flanks. Cantona those days would either spray the ball from midfield or support the attack by putting his own self in the box. Don’t forget too, they had Ince and Keane in midfield and this was all before the class of 92.6th September 2019 at 2:17 pm #47124
Just had a quick look at la liga champs over last few years and their averages.
Barca 18/19 – 2.5
Barca 17/18 – 3.4
Real 16/17 – 2.6
Barca 15/16 – 3.9
Barca 14/15 – 5.2
compare to last five PL champions
Traditionally we have all thought of la liga as an easier league for top teams to navigate. 5 years ago chelsea won the PL and Barca won La liga, and if you accept the goal average as a general measure of how strong a team is relative to its opposition that year, then you can see the average reflects the traditional narrative with barca scoring ridiculous 5.2 and jose’s chelsea 2.28.
Look at the trend since though, it seems to be going the opposite direction and now the prem league seems easier to win for the top team than la liga, with city scoring 4.13 to barca 2.5.
I think we havent fully accepted just how much better liverpool and city are to the rest, I think they are going to be miles ahead again this year. Chelsea, Arsenal, Man utd and spurs are the ones to blame though, not city or liverpool.6th September 2019 at 2:28 pm #47127
You really need to get a girlfriend… 🙂6th September 2019 at 2:32 pm #47129
You single darling? 🙂
I work from home and sometimes it can be very very slow.6th September 2019 at 2:47 pm #471306th September 2019 at 2:52 pm #47132
Sorry banjo, but chelsea f**king spurs was what turned me on about it, if we aint allowed to wear our shirts, forget it.6th September 2019 at 3:27 pm #47136
No cuddles for you then…
(On a mildly amusing note, I used a date a girl who was a Gooner, and I knew I wasn’t getting lucky when she would come to bed with that bloody shirt on! Never had to mention the “headache”!)6th September 2019 at 8:23 pm #47146
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The “Ifs and buts” and statistics do not interest me.They rarely, if at all, tells the actual story but I can see statistics being interesting to some. If you look at last season, I can just about remember it!!! it stated City won by one point, but nowhere does it say they pulled back 7 points, those are facts.I do acknowledge for the importance of records factual information should always be kept for the games historical event Most fans, as can be seen on here at times, will argue about “ifs and buts” until the cows come home but it changes nothing, game over, move on. I have witnessed many strange incidents over many years and would have driven myself to distraction if I had not switched off at the final whistle6th September 2019 at 8:46 pm #47148
Manchester City Won The League Title on Merit ultimately. That I Wholesome Respect.
Recalling the so-called 7 points to my recollection always involved you guys having to play a game to level out.
It’s a bit of a circus easily swamped into and it is what it is.
I’m happy from an LFC point of view to be in this position in the First Place.
The deep in depth analysis I don’t think do my Mental Health any favours.6th September 2019 at 9:30 pm #47149
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