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  • #35531
    Oz
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      Woo 16 mil, that’s 5 bucks to you & I. Reduced C/L squad, so they have a couple less top quality internationals on the bench, that means they can be fresher for the EPL.
      They only spent that this season because their squad was so far ahead of everyone else that’s all they had to spend. Our mob pushing them a bit this season will change that, they’ll spend big again next window & we’ have to follow if we want to keep up.
      Either way they’ll be up around the top again next season mate, the useless FIFA could put a season long transfer ban on them & they’d still be up around the top, their squad is that far ahead of the rest.

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      #35539
      nine nine nine
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        Either way they’ll be up around the top again next season mate, the useless FIFA could put a season long transfer ban on them & they’d still be up around the top, their squad is that far ahead of the rest.

        Probably Oz but if City get a transfer ban like Chelsea have and a European ban as well they might the gap will narrow still further to Liverpool and United.

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        #35544
        Oz
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          Maybe mate, other than an oil baron owner that’s the only way I can see we will keep up let alone get ahead.

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          #35554
          nine nine nine
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            Oz, City are under the cosh with FFP and are allegedly under the same investigation as Chelsea re the signing of young players and we all know how that ended.

            Football is cyclical Liverpool dominated, United dominated and neither seemed catchable but ultimately both Club’s fell behind.

            City even without the above won’t dominate forever and replacing Pep which is almost certain to happen over the next three years and it could be accelerated if UEFA and FIFA actions are succesful won’t be easy.

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            #35575
            Anonymous

              Im not writing off our ability to compete in the future. I don’t think we need oil money to spend £100m in the summer. I mean we’re not far off City when it comes to first 11 comparison. It gets worse for us after that but 1-2 top signings this summer without losing anyone and we’ve improved our chances. Even then, we’ve run them close this time, so far anyway. I mean, if we can turn our dodgy, inconsistent form around RIGHT NOW, the title is still maybe winnable.

              City could win the rest but they might not if other teams don’t throw their matches like watford. If we have gotten this good without oil money, we can do a little better without it too.

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              #35577
              nine nine nine
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                Let’s not forget that City for various reasons haven’t hit the same heights as they did last season.

                Even if they win every single game between now and the end of the season which imo is probably unlikely City would end up with 98 points which would be two points less than last season.

                Next Season I expect United to be title challengers their squad is already better than many have made out and I suspect Ole will be given £200m plus revenues from player sales to improve it in the Summer.

                Three way title race next season imo.

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                #35578
                Nike19
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                  The fact of the matter alluding to Liverpool is that we needed last season a Top quality centre-half and a Goalkeeper. They didn’t come cheap and we splashed out with the help of the Phillipe sale.

                  The slight difference or a huge difference if we then place the spotlight on Man City is that Pep in my opinion already inherited a fulcrum or a plethora of good players; experienced players that have won titles already and have served a long service.

                  It’s effectively a matter of just ‘topping up’, although Pep in his first season did struggle to adjust to the Prem, hence Conte and Chelsea winning it.

                  Look at the individual buys now like Danielo, LaPorte, Mahrez. These are genuine squad players who add quality. Sure, you need the big bucks, but there’s other elements that play a part too.

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                  #35579
                  nine nine nine
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                    Yet Conte won the PL in his first season.? Perhaps Pep is built up too high.?

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                    #35580
                    Nike19
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                      Relating back to the thread, I think signingwise, we’re looking at the possibility of 2 new faces, nothing over the top though we need to seriously consider about our fringe players with the view of clearing out.

                      We shouldn’t worry too much about our surrounding teams, just developing and fostering our own as I believe we are on the right track.

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                      #35582
                      nine nine nine
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                        “I think signingwise, we’re looking at the possibility of 2 new faces, nothing over the top”

                        Have you got an in to Klopp Nil? 🙂

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                        #35598
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                          Look, whatever about how things might go. I think next season is the first time that this Liverpool side will only be needing to “top up” in the summer. No matter what happens, we are a very very good side. Every team can improve their first 11, so I’m not saying that we don’t need to but our main problem is strength in depth and even then, we’re in a much better position there than in recent seasons.

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                          #35607
                          Nike19
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                            It most definitely is topping up. There are probably 3 areas I’d look at

                            1- centre-half to partner Van Dijk. How good has Coady been at Wolves and why did we let go of him in the first place?

                            2- An creative midfielder – like a Silva

                            3- A striker.

                            Players like Milner next season we can use less of as he’s getting on a bit. We also need to think about bring through, kids and give them first team opportunities.

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                            #35657
                            Oz
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                              I don’t know about just topping up mate. A creative goal scoring mid is essential IMO. We lack goals from the midfield & a player to link up going forward. Problem is there is only a handful of them around so getting 1 would be a problem.
                              Up top is also very thin but Klopp doesn’t really rely on a traditional 9 for goals so we need a quality player for up top that can play across the front line. I think we have 2 pretty good C/B’s & 1 obviously worldy in VVD but fullbacks is a different kettle of fish again.
                              We need some quality back up players because as we are seeing now depth is what will get you over the line over a full season. city have top back up players in all areas, hence winning pretty much everything or being there abouts.
                              The real problem is this is the best squad & manager we’ve had for many many seasons & we are still going to win nothing, city will definitely strengthen again so we are forever playing catch up.

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                              #35675
                              Anonymous

                                Nil, you want us to replace Gomez as partner for Van Dijk? You’re not the first fan I’ve seen come out with this and I can’t understand why. He was almost as good as van Dijk (when played at CB) before the injury and that’s saying something.

                                There aren’t many players out there who compare favourably to Van Dijk and we already have one. If you get someone else in, they’ve got to be as good as van Dijk. Does such a player exist? No, they don’t.

                                That’s not to say that Klopp agrees with me. Maybe he’ll go for that lad who partners Van Dijk for the Netherlands. Gomez has also had problems with his recovery, so that could be a factor. That is 2 serious injuries in his short career so far. This is my concern, not whether he’s up to it because I think if he shakes his injury problems, he’ll have the chance to create a legendary partnership with Van Dijk. Something that they are talking about for years after it’s no more.

                                That’s just me but before you write off what I’m saying. Look at our defence before and after the injury. We were impervious before and now we’re still decent but it’s just not the same. We’ve had Van Dijk all this time. he’s not off form. He’s been especially great recently too.

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                                #35677
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                                  Oz, what I mean by topping up is making 2-3 additions. Even in this time you are still looking at them maybe being fairly big signings. The fact is though, we’re only a point behind last seasons record breaking side. Do I think we’ll finish the season only a point behind? No, I think we’ll be further off, hence the 2-3 players required but we don’t need to go out and buy 6 top players (or have such conversations anyway). We’ve got a solid spine and our bench is a lot better than it used to be. There was a time when we’d look at the bench and wonder if it was worth making changes at all.

                                  Now, I guess it might be more complicated than I’m saying as Sturridge will be leaving. We’ve also been letting players like Ings and Solanke go. I mean besides just the top up, players have got to be replaced if you let them leave or sell them on. My point is though that i don’t think we’re desperately trying to claw anyone in anymore. City have the best squad in the game, perhaps.. and we’re keeping pace with them so far.

                                  …..Ask me after tonight if we need 6 top players though 😛

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                                  #35678
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    3 quality signings are probably the most possible for any of the top 6 Club’s bar the two Manchester Club’s.

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                                    #35680
                                    Chucky McChuckface
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                                      I dream of “only” making 2 or 3 signings…

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                                      #35681
                                      nine nine nine
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                                        Chucky, Spurs signings last season.

                                        23 August 2017 DF Colombia Davinson Sánchez Ajax £42,000,000 [10]
                                        23 August 2017 GK Argentina Paulo Gazzaniga Southampton Undisclosed [11]
                                        30 August 2017 DF Argentina Juan Foyth Estudiantes La Plata £10,000,000
                                        31 August 2017 DF Ivory Coast Serge Aurier Paris Saint-Germain £23,000,000
                                        31 August 2017 FW Spain Fernando Llorente Swansea City £12,000,000 [14]
                                        31 January 2018 MF Brazil Lucas Moura Paris Saint-Germain £25,000,000 [15]

                                        Spurs problems this season and going forwards is the cost of the new Stadium. I wouldn’t rule out a signing or two in the Summer though and if Eriksen goes he will need to be replaced.

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                                        #35686
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                                          Well, I’m not talking about what we will only do. For example, in the past Liverpool fans have discussed and argued about what positions need priority for the coming window. We’ve had times where 6 top signings were needed for us to get top 4 or challenge. Liverpool might have gone into that window and only bought 1 top player. We’ve stepped up every single transfer window under Klopp where he’s spent money, so it’s gradual.

                                          I’m not longer looking at the team and seeing nothing but holes or weaknesses. We do still need to improve but we’re definitely in the final stages of putting a top quality side/squad together. I mean, it’ll never be perfect and even the top players from last season might not be quite as good this time and that can be a headache when looking at the next window but … maybe you get my point.

                                          I still think there are question marks around the teams mentality. tonight will show us what they are made of.

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                                          #35693
                                          maverick1973
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                                            I dream of “only” making 2 or 3 signings… I dream about your sis….

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