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    nine nine nine
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    Mikus, not sure about that mate I think KDB is as important to City as Salah is to Liverpool and very difficult to fully cover for his loss even with the quality in the City squad.

    #25333 Score: 0
    Mikus
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    Key word for me Nine is balance. City are more of a balanced side even though they still play on the front foot. To me, they just defend more naturally or robustly than Liverpool do. I’m maybe getting over picky here but we have to explore things in the fine margins when you’re close to your rivals – and Guardiola is a stickler for fine details. With Liverpool, their game is somewhat more about brute force and having a quick and ruthless attack (and albeit a hard working hungry team that works to win the ball back) whereas City has a more robust overall team strategy. Put simply, you could take any player out that City team and they’d cope and adapt. With a player like Salah, his movement and goals are so integral to our winning formula – and this also eases the pressure on our defenders (who I think are more exposed at times than our rivals defenders).

    #25336 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    733 pts

    Great explanation but I’m still not sure!?

    #25337 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    733 pts

    Jamie Redknapp’s view on the KDB injury and Liverpool in today’s Daily Express.

    “I fancy Liverpool this year.

    I like the look of them. I think they will run Manchester City very close.

    City will be favourites, but if Kevin de Bruyne is out for a few months that’s a big blow”

    “I think Liverpool could mount a real challenge this year. You look at their forward power now, the front three are incredible, Daniel Sturridge came off the bench the other day and scored and Xherdan Shaqiri is there, he’s another player with great ability.

    “I think they could be real threat this season to Manchester City. If they’re going to do it, it’s going to be this season.

    “They seem to have a great spirit there, the manager is a like Pep, he’s got a great personality and the players seem to like him.

    “I think this could be Liverpool’s year to win a championship again.”

    I guess you wouldn’t expect anything else from Redknapp and this is the problem with employing pundits who have strong links to the club they played for imo and Redknapp is not alone in this.

    I woukd like to see Sky and BT Sport field pundits that don’t have leanings to their ex club’s for punditry when their former clubs are playing.

    #25342 Score: 0
    Hightown hopeHightown hope
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    999 – I really don’t like Redknapp at all, but I really don’t think you can quibble with what he has said above. There are plenty of pundits, ex-Liverpool or otherwise, who fancy Liverpool to give City a closer run for their money than they had last season. What do you want him to do…because he’s an ex-player, rule them out of contention? Every bookie I’ve seen makes Liverpool 2nd favourites, and Redknapp is no different to them.

    While I agree ex-players can sometimes make crass comments, this is not one of those occasions. If he’d gloated over KDB’s injury or said he hoped City fail or even that he hoped Liverpool would do it, you could criticise him, but he’s backed up in that article why he believes Liverpool are going to be City’s closest challengers with relevant points i.e. our front 3, the spirit of the players, the stronger back up squad than last season, and the manager.

    You’re just trying to start the pundit argument again. Save it for when someone does say something really stupid. You won’t have long to wait, I’m sure!

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    Big Jim
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    BT and Sky are loaded with ex United and Liverpool players. I ignore 99% of them for that very reason. However the one I do like listening to is Gary Neville who I find impartial informative and interesting. There I’ve said it ! ?

    #25345 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    733 pts

    Hightown, I agree that may well just be Redknapp’s opinion it’s even my opinion that Liverpool are in the title race this Season and will push City all the way. ?

    But I do have a bit of a jaundiced view of pundits especially when they are talking about their former clubs thankfully some of the worst aren’t given too much airtime.

    Having said that I agree with Jim on Neville and I also think Carragher tries to give an unbiased view too.

    Personally I would like to see non related pundits analysing games and controversial decisions just my opinion mate.

    #25346 Score: 0
    AdlabAdlab
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    Jim. Gary Neville. Hated him as a player but an outstanding pundit. The number of ex Liverpool pundits is amazing considering they have not won the league for a quarter of a century (plus)
    Listening to TV they are willing Liverpool to win. Simple. The team at the top at the end of the season wins by getting the most points. All the crap thats talked on radio and tv is irrelevant.
    It would be nice to see some balance!

    #25347 Score: 0
    Big Jim
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    183 pts

    Seen Dunney and Lescott a couple of times, but both quite quiet really.

    #25348 Score: 0
    Hightown hopeHightown hope
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    There you go, 9. Got your wish on another pundit debate!

    #25349 Score: 1
    sean the sailor
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    What I don’t get is the total over reaction. Ye we spent money but city are miles ahead of us

    Let’s be honest here now. Every time we get close to something we fuck it up

    Just look at our record recently.

    Lost our last 4 finals. Klopp has lost his last 6 finals.whn is it going to change?did we use all our luck in finals in 05?

    2014- our captain, one of the best ever Liverpool players slips, a fucking slip which basically costs us the title. No way would I ever blame Gerrard. That’s just pure bad luck

    We bottle the Europa league final after going 1-0 up

    Cl final our best player gets injured after being fit all season and our keeper makes two massive mistakes that you wouldn’t see in a pub game.

    I think we’re in a good place on and off the pitch. I love watching us play but one game is gone in the league. There is no gaurantee the players we signed will be big hits

    I listen to some Liverpool fans and I really wonder what the fuck they are going on about. We have been here so many times, so so many times were people go overboard and say we will win the league. We won’t.
    People can say I’m negative but I’m realistic. I’ll wnjoy watching us this season but I expect us to finish 3rd and trophyless. I’ll go overboard when we actually win something

    #25350 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    733 pts

    Hightown, I really wasn’t looking to start a debate mate I just stated a personally held view that it would be better impo if we had pundits not attached to the club commenting on their former clubs games and issues.

    Redknapp’s article motivated it but I happily accept it is probably just his opinion and as you’ve pointed out it’s not a unique opinion blimey even I think Liverpool are City’s nearest challenger and that Liverpool have a real chance of winning the title this season!?

    So on this occasion I’m happy to admit I might have been doing Redknapp a disservice but it doesn’t change my core view re club connected pundits commenting on their club’s games and club issues.

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