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    sean the sailor
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    425 pts

    David Silva was exceptional last year. No sign of him waning but he is getting on

    Fantastic squad. Best in the keFue by far with excellent cover for all positions

    Much different to Chelsea losing hazard abd Liverpool losing Salah

    #25386 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    910 pts

    Sean, re Silva that’s why I said beginning to wane there were games last season where he wasn’t quite as dominant but he had lots of family problems but he doesn’t bring the same energy to City as KDB.

    I agree City are the best squad in the country but it’s very tough to replace a player as good as KDB imo and as good as the City squad is he will be a massive miss. A plus for Liverpool though although no one wants to gain advantsge by injuries.

    City need to stay up with or ahead of Liverpool until up to Christmas from there KDB will be like a new signing for them but if Liverpool get too far in front it might be difficult for City to pull it back.

    #25387 Score: 0
    Mikus
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    211 pts

    Understand the points you raise Nine, and you may well be right. I think KDB is one of those players who goes more under the radar compared to Salah in terms of the noticeable contribution and impact he has on getting City’s attack ticking and flowing. And you can never beat the proven reliability of star players. The point I would add from my last post is that although he would undoubtedly be a loss to City, Guardiola is such a clever manager (with big resources) that he has better redundancy options not just in terms of quality but innovation. He could find a way to make up more for his loss (though it may take a few games) more than could Klopp could without Salah imo. Now over a run of games, that might not be immediately obvious, but over a season I think it would be, i.e. City’s effectiveness without KDB would perhaps drop 10 to 15%, whereas Liverpool without Salah would drop more (assuming none of our new players or Sturridge has a blinding season). That last point is the unknown – if Keita and VVD fulfil expectations and say Sturridge stays fit and banged goals in, then a loss of Salah wouldn’t be quite as bad.

    Either way, this season will be a close and absolutely fascinating battle between the two clubs. Guardiola is the more innovative and balanced out the two, but Klopp has such a strong connection and bond to his players that they fight so hard for him and so Klopp claws back somewhat here – enough to beat Guardiola? That’s the $64 million dollar question.

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    #25389 Score: 0
    Big Jim
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    183 pts

    Imo Gundogwan isn’t in the same class as KDB, B Silva or D Silva. But with Mahrez joining I don’t think we will miss him too much. Three months and about 8 or 9 matches missed with most of those against lower oposition. Losing Fernadiniho for three months would be harder to replace. How much money are you putting on Liverpool winning then nine?

    #25390 Score: 0
    Big Jim
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    183 pts

    Think it’s a safe bet that Sturridge will be on the physios bench again within a month. You simply can’t base a title challenge round his contribution. Klopp will have little faith in anything he can contribute long term.

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    sean the sailor
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    Jim, you think Liverpool were the only team in the league who could compete with city and he’s basing it on us spending money.

    Utd have spent much more money then ya in recent seasons so why aren’t they expected to challenge?

    I think it’s mind games from nine lol. Look at spurs bench today. They have a fantastic team
    Look at Chelsea’s squad. They only win the league 15 months ago

    New manager but it didn’t stop conte. Liverpool are not the only challengers to city and everyone knows we are more then capable of falling apart at anytime and it’s crwzy talk especially with one game gone

    Liverpool have a net spend of 160 min 8 windows since klopp came.

    Utd have spent 317m

    Not sure what’s Chelsea’s is but it’s usually 90 net a summer.

    We had to swell one of best players to buy a few players. That’s easily forgot by many people. Equivalent of Chelsea selling hazard. Utd pogba and spurs Kane

    #25392 Score: 0
    Big Jim
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    183 pts

    I agree wholeheartedly Sean. I think City are favourites but it won’t just be Liverpool challenging. I think nine must be klopps love child!

    #25393 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    910 pts

    Sean, my views on Liverpool being the main challengers are based on where Liverpool are coming from last season, the quality of their front three and the strength of Van Dijk plus the signings of Alisson and Keita. This is probably the best all round equipped Liverpool team for a long while.

    Liverpool imo are rightly second favourites I still don’t think they’ll win it ( even with the KDB injury) because there are still gaps in the depth of the squad and injuries to key players could significantly handicap them but it’s going to be a lot closer than last season and if Liverpool go pretty much injury free I wouldn’t discount them winning it.

    By the way Sean what you spend is not as important as who you spend it on and Klopp has bought much better than Mourinho which is why Liverpool are rightly second favourites for the title ahead of United and overall a better team.

    Jim re how much are you putting on Liverpool? I never bet on anything mate let alone football and you obviously haven’t been reading my posts as to who I think will win the PL. But you both need to watch out for Chelsea coming up on the rails!?

    #25395 Score: 0
    Big Jim
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    183 pts

    Nine all your posts about Liverpool clearly show you have been taken along with all the hype, as Sean indicated you don’t mention anybody else as contenders, and KDBs loss could well tip the balance in Liverpool’s favour and so on and so on. Im totally fine with it but I do find it a little funny.

    #25396 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    910 pts

    Sean, Chelsea spent £17m , £76m and £90m net in the last three seasons so circa £60m on average per season and just like Liverpool have previously Chelsea sell to buy even selling Costa last season.

    Liverpool are righyly second favourites for the PL embrace it don’t run away from it .

    It may all go t’s up but Liverpool are progressing.

    #25397 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    910 pts

    Jim, Pay attention!? I predicted City will win the PL and every one of my posts confirms that.

    #25398 Score: 0
    Big Jim
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    183 pts

    Ok nine, lovechild of Klopp, if you say so! ?

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    nine nine nine
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    910 pts

    Jim, have you lost the ability to read mate!?

    #25404 Score: 0
    sean the sailor
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    425 pts

    Some game. Both poor at the back. Aresnal should be winning

    Great game

    Chelsea to edge it

    #25471 Score: 0
    Big Jim
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    183 pts

    Didn’t seem to miss him much today. ?

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