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Adlab none of the major leagues have mentioned voiding. If you do then no one qualifies for Europe next year, UEFA have already stated this. No one would get any prize money either.
The only options are play out the league or cancel it. Cancelling it has a number of options on how to finalise the standings. Belgium declared a winner, France it seems also with 2 up and 2 down, Netherlands said no winner and no promotion or relegation. Very different to voiding. Euro qualification and prize money as per the final standings (either PPG or as it is).
I’m not very confident the PL will start again but I am sure if it’s cancelled it will declare LFC as the winner and probably relegate and promote 2 (very harsh on Villa who have a game in hand).
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I’m not sure the French League was voided there are obviously legal implications in all of the terminology but the French Government cancelled all Sport until September at the earliest.
The French FA have yet to officially pronounce on how the season will end but all the expectations are PSG will be crowned Champions and rightly so and imo if the PL doesn’t get played out as it might well not Liverpool should be crowned Champions here too imo.
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Gday all, hope everyone is doing ok. So I’ve followed LFC since Craig Johnston played for them & seen so many near misses over many years and finally it seemed this season was the one where we got to celebrate the EPL title finally at Anfield. It appears that once again, only this time for a reason outside football, that LFC will once again miss out on getting that elusive title with the season likely to be abandoned. Adlab will be stoked ( yeah he’ll come on saying they deserved it but we know he’s ecstatic), as will many others that despise LFC but regardless I believe LFC deserved to be finally called EPL champions & not seeing them get their reward for an amazing season was the final straw for me, I have lost all interest in the game. It feels like an injustice
Truth be told I’d lost my passion for the game in recent seasons, esp after fox sports lost the rights in Oz for the coverage & I could no longer watch it. I acknowledge the importance of not resuming football as life is more important & I agree the game cannot start again with this deadly virus still so active so don’t see it as sour grapes or being a sook, just someone that doesn’t enjoy the game any more, as I said I was losing passion in any case. I see myself & family very lucky as both the wife & I have jobs classed as essential services so despite being stuck in isolation we haven’t faired too bad. Sorry for the long post but I will more than likely not post again (unless I head over there again & come looking for advice or to catch up with someone) so take care everyone and I hope you all stay safe & enjoy life to the fullest. Waters cold here but the surfs up & I’ve got a cracking steamer so it’s all good.
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Oz, hear what you’re saying and can understand the loss of enthusiasm for the sport. Hope you get it back at some point, but in the meantime enjoy the surf. Have to admit if I had the Australian coast as my playground I would find getting over footie easier!
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For the life of me I can’t understand why people are so keen to cancel this season ‘so that it doesn’t affect next season’. By doing that it makes every single game that we’ve watched since last August a complete waste of time. Surely the priority should be to complete this season, and then work out the complexities of next season based on where we are. If you’re painting a room and you run out of paint, you don’t say ‘sod that’, we’ll forget that room and start another one.
While it would be funny for non-Liverpool fans I’m sure if the league was null and voided, doesn’t it just make the whole thing a farce to start a new competition before the previous one has finished? What’s the rush to start a new season? If the logistics of next season have to be changed, then so be it. They almost certainly will anyway. At least it will be the same for every team, and all will know the situation before it starts. I completely agree that football shouldn’t start until there is the all clear, but when that all clear is given then we complete the current season first
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Clearly there appears to be a difference between cancelled and voided. How tough would that be on Villa?
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We are now a highly risk averse society, with the added rule of lawyers to boot. And if you look at this in the context of football, with a lot of superstar players, of whom many, lets be honest, are at their respective clubs not for the local communities but for their *own* glory and their *own* purpose – how bothered will they be if they can or can’t complete their seasons or not? The free flowing global transfer market is far more dynamic than once it was; it’s a different game completely now. So there is actually a significant conflict of interests between the fans and the players that is usually kept in check by the united ambitions of the club during an active season. Take that away, and I’m afraid we’ll see what football clubs now really are – the temporary and expensive platforming of global talent for entertainment with little to no transmission or care to the community. Compare and contrast to the Bundesliga.
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Oz, be a great shame if we were to lose you on here buddie I always enjoy your posts and hearing about your surfing exploits which cheer me up no end onthe cold wet days we get over here when you’re basking in the Sun so I really hope this is not the end of reading your posts merely a brief pause.
As for denying Liverpool the title you’re right it would be a total injustice tbh I don’t think that will happen and from what I’ve read the PL Clubs unanimously support Liverpool being awarded the title if the season remains incomplete and there only needs to be 14 votes to carry that through.
My only concern would be if the season can’t be completed is it more legally sound for the PL to void the season?
I guess only a Sports Lawyer can answer that question.
I hope though that Liverpool are crowned Champions because they deserve to be and I hope you have a change of heart and treat us to your usual posts every now and again. Best Wishes to you and your family. Stay safe. Cheers 999
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https://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/ligue-1/2019-2020/football-news-psg-set-to-be-named-champions-after-ligue-1-cancellation_sto7738189/story.shtml
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Seems the way it will happen across Europe.
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Completely irrelevent, but I had to go to the office today, and as we’re practising “socail distancing”, we all got to pick an office to work in, so I took the CEO’s and everytime somebody came near yelled “YOU’RE FIRED!!!”… great fun!!
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Kylie-You were Alan Sugar for a day???
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As I’ve said before, leagues are being very clever with the wording, they are not using void of cancel, but are saying the leagues have been abandoned, that gives them the option of awarding positions or not.
In grass roots footy, if a game is abandoned then the league committee get to decide the outcome, I’m sure that will also be what happens with any league that decides to abandon the current season……Pagan
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HH, the priority football wise is not to get this season finished at the cost of next season’s league. Clubs have got at least 75% of their money for this season, do you seriously clubs will put all of next seasons money at risk against the chance they may not get the remaining 25% of this season’s?
As for your painting analogy, if your painting rooms for a living, and you run out of paint for for one room, would you then turn down your future work?
……Pagan
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Him or Trump… I take no responsibility!
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“French Football’s Governing Body now Confirm PSG as Champions.”
“Paris St-Germain have been awarded the Ligue 1 title after it was announced the season would not resume because of the coronavirus pandemic.
PSG were 12 points clear at the top of the table, with a game in hand, when French football was suspended indefinitely on 13 March.
Earlier this week, France’s Prime Minister Edouard Philippe cancelled the 2019-20 sporting season.
French football’s governing body had hoped to resume the season on 17 June.
PSG have been awarded the title on a points-per-game basis, while Lorient have been crowned Ligue 2 champions on the same principle.
They were just one point above Lens when the season was suspended and both teams will be promoted.
Amiens and Toulouse will be relegated from Ligue 1.
When might Europe’s top leagues return from coronavirus suspension?
“There might be appeals but our decisions are solid,” said Didier Quillot, the chief executive of the French League (LFP).Quillot added the LFP had until 25 May to tell Uefa which clubs will be qualified for European competitions.
That is the same day by which European leagues have to tell European football’s governing body whether they want to complete or cancel their seasons.
The Dutch top flight was abandoned on Friday with no promotion or relegation and no champions, while on Monday Belgian clubs postponed a vote on confirming the cancellation of their top flight until next week.” BBC Football
Exactly what we should be doing imo.
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With regards to the footy, CoVOID (see what I did there?) very obviously has a very big say in this, but at the end of the day, I reckon the final decision will be based on whatever works out to be the most convenient financial solution (with least amount of lawsuits also being a huge consideration).
Rightly or wrongly, I still think we’ll end up with no finish this season, no relegation, 2 up from the Championship (maybe even 3rd) and 22/23 teams for next season which will keep the vast majority of clubs relatively happy, the TV companies get a ton of extra games to make up for the ones they missed this season, and clubs all get an extra couple of home games to make up the shortfall.
Still some issues with the Euro spots, most likely they will be given to those already in them I reckon.
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Adlab, too tough on Villa and the other relegation candidates imo.
I’m with Chucky on this no relegation , Liverpool are crowned Champions, 2/3 teams up from the Championship and an expanded PL for a season whenever it might be able to start.
Whatever we do needs to be done in tandem with Europe which means if we can’t get back to playing football until say October and the rest of Europe is starting new seasons then and there is a chance to play the CL and the EL then we can’t be trying to finish our season from October and for instance on that basis not being able to start a new one until probably the earliest mid November early December when 2020/21 CL and EL games would probably be already underway.
Where the French League had the advantage was that the call to end their season was made by the French Government which perhaps helps the French League legally.
I’m not sure how easy it will be to stage European games next season but I’m happy to go along with whatever is decided for this seasons European places whatever that may be.
From a Chelsea perspective whether that delivers CL or EL football I really don’t care that much, tbh I think United would probably have overtaken Chelsea in the race for 4th prior to the Pandemic.
I was happy to accept EL at the beginning of this season given all of Chelsea’s circumstsnces and from a Chelsea perspective I’m happy to accept whatever is decided on European places now although I think using co efficients is probably the worst way to go.
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Not really bothered who the PL gets awarded to, but the name engraved on the trophy should be NHS, and top scorer should be Colonel Tom…..Pagan
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