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  • #177390
    Anonymous

      What’s that Italian manager that not with any club at the moment and is highly rated, someone also asked me but says he can’t remember her name.

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      #177391
      Nike19
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        Rodgers would be good for Spurs. He’s done well at Leicester, but I don’t feel that he’s properly appreciated; especially when players are breaking Co-vid rules.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56710648

        To me as it stands I think Jose’s tenure rides pulling something special from the League Cup Final. He really needs to try and win respect from the Tottenham faithful.

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        #177393
        Luckydestiny
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          Moos, think you are thinking of allegri

          If spurs fans don’t like Jose they won’t like allegri

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          #177394
          Luckydestiny
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            Rodgers is good shout nil, RB leipzig manager a good fit too

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            #177395
            Brian blue
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              Nil.. I do nothing Rodgers would benifit going to Spurs, heis OK wherehe is for at least another season then may look at the possibilities but Leicester are better than Spurs at the moment apart from end of season wobble, he needs to sort that out. Good manager

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              #177396
              Luckydestiny
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                Spurs haven’t been good since Toby and jan were at their best at centreback imo, walker and Rose were far superior to current full backs too. Lloris was still a top keeper back then too

                If Jose had that back 5 I think he would be top 4 like poch was, just opinion of course.

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                #177397
                Nike19
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                  Brian, I see what you mean and good point.

                  I was just thinking of a possibility in getting teeth stuck into a new venture. I’m led to believe Leicester have more funds to spend for players, but I think Spurs would attract the better players (in comparison).

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                  #177398
                  Brian blue
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                    It could be said that Jose inherited a poor squad but you have to work with what you have and I would have thought a good manager could handle that. However, once players do not respond to the manager , problems will always arise but I never like to see players dominating a Manager/Club. They get paid enough to play football not political football. Jose will be well paid when he leaves and the final with City in a few weeks should tell us something….or maybe not!!

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                    #177399
                    sean the sailor
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                      I’ve said it many times. His tactics are out dated. His football is dire. I think he’s done

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                      #177400
                      Nike19
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                        Lucky @ 8:38 Spot On mate. Perfect point on the impact caused on Lloris. I’ve sensed similarities to Alison with our lot when there’s not a settled defensive unit played regularly.

                        Cheers

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                        #177401
                        Shiney
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                          Lucky, you’re right the squad has gone backwards, but it’s not being helped by our manager, our best option is to play a pressing, attacking game as we don’t have the quality of defenders to sit back.
                          Daniel Levy didn’t back Poch when the team was crying out for fresh blood and while he and Enic are in charge this is about as good as it’s going to get.

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                          #177402
                          Nike19
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                            Sean, that’s the thing mate about bringing out expertise, experience and knowledge into the Tv Studio. I don’t hate the guy or anything, but what I see is something lost that I first laid eyes on 15 years or so ago: CHARISMA.

                            I don’t think as such it’s there. More importantly, Tactics and being able to get the Best out of your players.

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                            #177403
                            Luckydestiny
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                              Brian, if you agree the squad is poor then what are they realistically expected to achieve?

                              Not trying to defend Jose because I have been disappointed with him myself in that I expected him to do better based on his reputation.

                              But was it reasonable for me to expect better?

                              It’s better than it was in poch’s last season that’s for sure but how much better should we expect it to be? In terms of league position I don’t think we could expect too much more but we will only know for sure when Jose is sacked and the next manager does no better

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                              #177404
                              Nike19
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                                Really good win elsewhere for the Gunners; 3-0 and Deserved.

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                                #177406
                                Luckydestiny
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                                  Shiney I think you are right mate, not that you would need my agreement as they are your team.

                                  I think levy thought we almost won CL with this squad so instead of backing the guy who got me there with investment in squad to go step further, he decided Jose could come in and make that difference himself without major investment to squad

                                  I don’t think levy, or myself for that matter, really understood how much the team was on the slide. Poch knew and couldn’t fix it by magic, key players getting old or moving on, replace them with top players or regression is inevitable

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                                  #177407
                                  Mikus LFC
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                                    In more ways than one, Jose was the wrong fit for Spurs, but at that time it was perhaps worth a punt. The problem with Jose’s brand of football is that it has to pay off in terms of results as it’s a more mundane way of playing in terms of player motivation.

                                    This has been further exacerbated as the game has evolved to be more attacking and fluid over the years. Big players want to play for managers that play that way. Even though Jose has had big success, he’s just not going to be a big draw for players as he once was. I think his way, with the right players can still be effective and being effective is one of the most important attributes for a team and what gets results. But the culture now is so different, it’s like the game is almost leaving him behind.

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                                    #177410
                                    Nike19
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                                      Much to Jose’s detriment, the game is on another level Speed-wise; since no fans and a whole different Facet, the Serie A Style on Premier League Grass Courts is a Tug-Of-War.

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                                      #177411
                                      Luckydestiny
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                                        Mikus, lot of truth there but when spurs were flying playing that way earlier this year kane and son were smiling no problems

                                        If Jose had the squad to play the way he wants they would be winning and consequently happy

                                        But there lies the problem, he is not playing to his squads strengths by sitting deep and encouraging the opposition to dominate the ball and get players forward. In fact he is playing to their weakness as if they are unable to sit back and hold on to leads why are they not instead going for goal number 2 and playing a more aggressive game?

                                        I think shiney was spot on with that

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                                        #177412
                                        Mikus LFC
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                                          I think it’s just the nature of things that a manager will always have their own philosophy that they coach and they will still play that way even if it means sacrificing the other qualities of the team. Very rarely do you see a manager adapt to circumstances. I remember when Rodgers was at Liverpool and we played Real Madrid away and he suddenly tried to play very defensively to try and get a result. But it just wasn’t in his DNA and we pretty much played the entire game in our own half if I remember rightly. And it still didn’t work as we lost 1-0.

                                          I think there has been naivety in the appointments of Jose at his two recent clubs, Spurs & Man Utd. I think both clubs thought Jose could somewhat adapt and there was a thought particularly at Utd I think that he could play more attacking football, especially if they threw certain players at him. But that’s just pie in the sky.

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                                          #177414
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                                            I’m not sure I agree with that last paragraph Mikus even though I agree with a lot of your other points.

                                            It wasn’t so much about hoping he’d be a more attacking manager but more about hoping we’d get the Jose from his first Chelsea spell and his Real Madrid spell rather than his second Chelsea spell.

                                            His Real Madrid side were far from a defensive side. They were (I think still are) the record goalscorers in La Liga history. Chelsea were a brilliant side under him, too, in his first spell in particular.

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