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There’s been cries rightly for this to effectively be the saviour for wrongful decision-making in Football. Surely there can’t be complaints now that genuine tests/run-throughs are being carried out.
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Completely failed tonight though!
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If the ref had given the penalty the VAR would have backed him up and the penalty would have stood, what the VAR has done is said the contact wasn’t obviously missed.
The same goes for the Morata incident
Back to the drawing board I think after this….Pagan
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‘Within his rights to go down’ has to be one of the worst phrases used by the average shite pundit.
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Seems human-nature to me. This happens in Cricket. Tennis-wise, I believe each guy is allowed 2 or 3 calls.
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VAR fails because it still comes down to an official deciding whether it was a penalty or not the video evidence was clear that it was 100% a penalty and he got the decision wrong.
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Cricket and tennis have natural breaks, not the same in footy, rugby has a longer advantage pull back time.
In regards to tonight’s game it’s easier to accept the bad decisions if there was no system where it could be reviewed, for me tonight has been a bad advert for technology
Im not in favour of VAR and would like this to be a nail in its coffin….Pagan
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Justice is done though!?
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Chelsea are through though, so maybe VAR isn’t so bad now haha.
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Nil, whether Chelsea are through or not is immaterial mate VAR failed badly tonight.
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Nine, one of your own supporters right now on Talksport has condemned your own players – this being for Diving.
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The Pedro dive was awful – was like he became Dele Alli
Can’t belueve Chelsea didn’t win comfortably tonight. Strange game, seemed to be at half pace in the first half
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The issue with VAR is that it will only advise the ref to overrule their decision it was a clear and obvious mistake – unless the ref reviews the video themselves pitchside.
Not all contact is a foul, therefore unless it was clear and obvious the original decision will stand. That is where it becomes subjective- though the initial decision is too.
You need the original decision to go in your favour (had the ref given the penalty last night VAR was unlikely to reverse it).
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last night proved that VAR is not being used correctly, while there were occasions where there were silly dives and rightly booked for it, Chelsea should have at 2 nailed on penalties. Actually thought the ref looked disapointed after the penalty shootout
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Nil@10:53pm he won’t have been talking about the Willan incident though mate and I’ll happily join whoever you heard on Talksport in respect of the Pedro dive which was more than poor and the Norwich player didn’t even touch him and Pedro should be banned for two games for diving imo but he wont be because those rules are cockeyed on that too.
But the Willian incident was a stonewall penalty he didn’t dive and how with VAR it wasn’t given is beyond me as it as a clear and obvious penalty.
I support the difficult job the Refs do and have said previously they don’t have the luxury of reviewing the incident as we do and studying the slo mo’s but with VAR they do and they still couldn’t get it right
Even Klosse the Norwich defender who made the tackle has said it was a penalty.
Lot’s more work to do on VAR if the officials mess it up as badly as they did in this gam
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haha the Var system for the Chelsea-Norwich game was a total shambles-they never even used it when they had to and used it when it was not needed.
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Which way does it work? Has the ref to indicate to var geezer that he wants a playback or is it the other way around?
Didn’t see the game but sounds like a right mess
Were the bookings for diving correct?
By sounds of it Chelsea had two stonewall pens denied.
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The Pedro, Willian and Morata incidents last night were diving decisions/yellow cards, the ref stopped the game for those reasons. VAR can only be used for penalties, red cards, goals and mistaken identity, as the game wasn’t stopped for any of those reasons I don’t really see if it could be used.
The simple solution though would be to upgrade diving to a red card offence, if the ref thinks you’ve dived he blows and states a possible red card decision, he reviewes it and it’s either a
Dive – red card
Foul – free kick
Legitimate contact – drop ballTo be honest I can’t see how anyone can argue that diving shouldn’t be a straight red
As for Morata, that should now be the bench mark, you argue with or abuse the ref you walk
….Pagan
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There were dives from both sides but only one side got booked for it and they also had 2 clear penalties decreed-ed as dives, so here I think they also need to make provision for VAR if it was not used and only after the ball has gone dead which is nearly always immediately-it usually goes to the keeper or out for a goal kick.
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Both ways Sean.
If the ref misses a clear and obvious incident (penalty, offside goal, dangerous play [i think], mistaken identity) then VAR can step in and advise the ref that he may have made an error. The ref can then go with VAR or view the incident on a pitch side monitor. They can also ignore VAR, or review and overrule.
However, the ref can also call for VAR if they want VAR to review a decision, or to view pitch side themselves.
The issue is that a lot of rules are subjective – what contact makes a tackle a foul, what happens if an attacker leaves a trailing leg etc. VAR will only advise if there is a clear and obvious mistake. Those penalties where you have seen them given on occasion and not given on others will not be sorted out as it will hinge on the original call from the ref.
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