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Chucky McChuckfaceParticipant401 pts29th August 2019 at 6:36 pm #46652
Re Seattle Nine, the city was isolated and major bands hardly visited in the eighties. The young musicians and singers grew up idolising a lot of british artists and had to create their own scene based on their influences. Sabbath, the beatles, the who, even the sex pistols, all inspired the seattle bands. I personally think all great bands steal and borrow sounds and riffs and develop on them, its just the greatest bands have the better tastes of what to borrow and develop(led zep best example of this) I think most seattle bands, especially Soundgarden and Pearl Jam did this really well, and they both had amazing lead vocalists too in Cornell (rip) and Vedder. If you want to hear an amazing cover check out this by the late Cornell:
Pearl Jam still going, even if you’r not a fan check this song out from their last album. It would have made me cringe as a selfish teenager, but as an adult increasingly aware of my mortality and just how much I love those I love, it really moves me:29th August 2019 at 6:38 pm #46653
Banjo, I love temple of the dog, Reach down and mcready’s epic solo and Times of trouble my fave’s29th August 2019 at 6:40 pm #46654
Have you heard Mad season Banjo? Mcready and Layne Staley29th August 2019 at 7:16 pm #46658
Hey LD, ya I found that cover when Chris died. Was very shocking. I’m a pretty big fan of Chris Cornell but I still wouldn’t have listened to all his stuff, he’s done quite a lot. His suicide was really shocking. Being a massive David Bowie fan, that was also incredibly shocking. I wouldn’t call myself a fan per say of Alice in Chains but I like quite a few of their songs. He was a sad case also. His situation really was totally hopeless but I think Chris Cornell could perhaps have struggled on if he had gotten the right help.
I’ve always meant to get into Pearl Jam. I wouldn’t say I’ve given them enough of a chance but, they haven’t taken for me so far. I don’t like his voice if I’m honest. They seem to be some really decent guys who always look out for their fans and try to give them them a good show, which is admirable. I think they generally stay on stage way longer than other acts etc etc.
Later on I may recommend some Bowie to people. Like other artists, not all phases are initially appealing, or are just downright not great… but wow, if I were to really think about it, I could tell you all about 100 good songs of his. How many other artists could you do that for?
I also like Beck but his recent stuff is poor.29th August 2019 at 7:44 pm #46659
nine nine nineModerator700 pts29th August 2019 at 7:48 pm #46660
You’re spot on re pearl jam Mak. Their music, and vedders voice are an acquired taste, and they make no effort to try to persuade anyone to acquire it. imo they have a ton of great songs that are great live but their albums are mediocre. They went on this weird self sabotaging phase after they got really big and deliberately made their 3rd album Vitalogy impossible to listen to, even if you were a fan, but it is packed with songs that are amazing live (you ever heard betterman live?). This trend kind of carried on, the albums were very blandly produced and mediocre, but as soon as they are live the songs are great.
I got acquired to them when I was 15, I had just started listening to Nirvana and my friends told me pearl jam were playing in cardiff. I went not knowing their music expecting this big elaborate rock set up with silly props and lights etc, when they came on stage it was just five dudes and their instruments and I fell in love with them immediately, the show was amazing. I quickly bought all their albums and was always disappointed with the studio versions of the songs, but live they are my favourite band in the world and believe me many bands respect what pearl jam have managed to do. They have a cult following second only to the grateful dead, who will pack stadiums and arenas all over the world every week of every year to see PJ time and time again. They do this because like even you recognise, PJ really respect and cherish their fans and the life they have been blessed to live. A genius move they made was realising that their fans loved them so much live they were buying poor quality recordings of the live shows, so they decided to release their live shows as official bootlegs and at one point in year 2000 I believe they had quite a few bootleg live albums in the billboard top 200 charts at the same time. I bought the Cardiff bootleg and played it more than any other album I have had. I also saw them headline Reading on the the last night in 2006 (placebo just before them who I love too)29th August 2019 at 8:06 pm #46661
nine nine nineModerator700 pts29th August 2019 at 10:53 pm #46666
Great post there LD. I feel like you’ve explained a few things for me. I haven’t listened to enough PJ to say anything definitively but ya, the stuff I listened to sounded a bit flat (not in note). Also, I’m definitely a studio music listener. I’ve never been much a concert goer and I feel most live editions of songs are of a lesser standard. There are of course exceptions and they are something to be cherished. That said though, if you were to sit and think for just 60 seconds about a song recommendation, just one song. A studio song… as a kind of entry point to PJ.
Now, when thinking of this remember that my favourite musician is Bowie but I really liked what Chris Cornell did, I’m not a fan of Nirvana but I do like what I’ve heard from Alice in Chains. I used to be a massive Oasis fan but Liam’s attitude wore me down.
So, if you don’t mind, go on hit me. I will play the song 3 times and give you my opinion.29th August 2019 at 10:57 pm #46667
Nine, Bowie was just amazing. I only got into him when I was 25 or so but when I did, I remember uncovering amazing song after amazing song. Album to album…. it was like finding treasure.
When he died, I had been binging heavily on his music once again, as he had only released his last album. So, when I woke up one morning and saw a text from my mam saying he was dead, it hit me really hard. ooooff
His music lives on though, waiting to be uncovered by whatever lucky bastards decide to give it a go. I think you’ve got to give a new song 3 listens because unless something is very catchy, you wont get it on one. I found that about Bowie in fact, I didnt like all his stuff after 1 listen. far from it.29th August 2019 at 11:46 pm #46669
Mak, will be my pleasure but I can not do this without a preface. Like I said Pearl Jam are one of the rare bands who actually sound better live than in the studio, but the main reason they are so great live is how broad their repertoire is. Their sets are like waves, they have slow moody songs, fast paced rockers, classic medium tempo rock songs, off beat and quirky songs. The reason I am saying this is that I cant really pick one song that could define them as a band as easily as I could say a Nirvana or Alice in chains. That being said I will give it a go. I am picking Unthought Known from their 9th studio album backspacer. It is not my favourite pearl jam song but it is one of the best produced and due to its structure is kind of like a mini pearl jam show in a song, although it never gets to the kind of pace a lot of their songs can reach live. The below is not an official Video, PJ rarely do them, this is a fan made video to go with the song, hope you enjoy mate.
You can listen to any of their albums on you tube or spotify, if you want to get a sense of their breadth as a band then listen to their second album – Vs, in full as it is one of the better produced albums and like I said showcases their diversity and will give you a better understanding of the different types of music they make.30th August 2019 at 12:39 am #46673
I totally understand and didn’t mean to suggest that this song fully represented them. I was more thinking about an entry point. I will listen to this at least 3 times as I said, I think maybe only 1 time tonight cause it’s late but ya, I will respond once I have those 3 plays in, cheers 😉15th September 2019 at 2:17 pm #47561
I don’t personally have that much of a recollection of this, but WOW! July 13th 1985.
Live Aid. No other Concert will ever be as Big as this – Wembley Stadium15th September 2019 at 8:13 pm #47573
PaganParticipant205 pts15th September 2019 at 9:49 pm #47579
Brian blueParticipant214 pts
Reading all your post on your favourites has been interesting but totaly alien to me. I am into a different kind of music, a lot of Jazz, Big Band music and I mean real Big Bands. Count Basie and the likes Oscar Peterson but, in general, I like all kinds of music from Classical to Country. The one thing I cannot stand is the drum lead music, just kills any attempt at musical scores.
I play keyboard myself, after my piano playing days cut short by fractured wrist,
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