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Again, to clarify, not for a moment comparing kicking a cat to what Greenwood is alleged to have done. My point in those examples was to point to examples of players who were the subject of massive news stories where the whole world of football was outraged and boos followed them everywhere yet all of them simply carried on with their careers and nobody cared after a while.
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Ed, that’s my feeling too, and it’s clear in the club statement too;
In a statement, the club said: “All those involved, including Mason, recognise the difficulties with him recommencing his career at Manchester United. It has therefore been mutually agreed that it would be most appropriate for him to do so away from Old Trafford, and we will now work with Mason to achieve that outcome.
The difficulties of course being public image of the club and as you say all the negative implications that would come with keeping him, like it’s affect on other players.
I think the club have clearly conducted a thorough investigation, but it does seem they were backed in to a corner based on it’s conclusions combined with public reaction.
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WRT Partey, three different women have accused him of rape. Police are still investigating.
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Cheers Alfie. Utd can now get on with their season. Interesting to see were he ends up
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It honestly shocks me how little everyone seems to know/care about the whole Partey thing. The Arsenal fans don’t seem to care at all.
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Ed,I don’t know why in some cases it applies but in others it doesn’t, but in the case of partey he does seem to have had legal protection preventing him being named in all major news media outlets.
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When was Partey even accused of rape?
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WRT MG,I believe the club have done the right thing,should have done it long time ago.
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Exactly Mav, you prove my point mate because it’s all conjecture, he has never been named.
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LD-What happened with Mendy,that too was very strange indeed!Something fishy,@ least.
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Here’s my opinion and I’m sure many won’t like it.
Basically these guys are not that smart and full of testosterone. An easy target for a certain type of female with money on their mind “bag a footballer”.
When it doesn’t go to plan, all sorts of accusations appear.
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The CPS always look to chase a high profile individual.
Years ago I dealt with a tax case involving a well known individual. The amounts involved were relatively small compared with many but HMRC, Inland Revenue in those days, insisted on not accepting a settlement. Apart from minor issues on submission of returns and cooperation and small fines, with respect to major items in £000s we won the case and there was no evidence apart from that from his estranged wife._____________________________
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Surprised and impressed with the actions of YooUtd here…
To me, it’s all smoke and mirrors now, we all saw/heard the tape, but now it’s been spun out into “didn’t hear the whole tape and it’s been taken out of context” reasoning…
And as I’ve mentioned before, I’m not remotely surprised the “victim” and her family have “made-up” with multi-millionaire Mason, that’s the society we live in now.
There’s a lot of truth in what Adder’s posted above at 7:54…
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Yeah but we can’t apply generalisations to individual cases.
We know some men rape, we know some women lie about rape.
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Banjo, what were you expecting utd to do following the backlash to leaked “reintegration” documents?
As the statement said, reintegration carries too many difficulties, he has to leave utd.
I think utd did the right thing in investigating so thoroughly.
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Ed, sorry I know that mate but I don’t think the noise with this would die down like sound etc
I don’t think greenwood’s career should be finished at all but I think he is really going to hard pushed to find a team even abroad.
David good Willie charges were dropped due insufficient evidence yet he was found guilty in a civil court. He has no record wtc but there is absolute mayhem when he tried to move from Clyde to raith or to a club in Australia
No one will touch him
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Nepolean, I wouldn’t have been surprised if they done an “Arsenal” and kinda pretended none of it happened, and sweeped it under the carpet with a “charges were dropped, he wasn’t found guilty, therefore he must be innocent” type of press release… (as I would suspect most clubs, including my own, would do!)
Guilty or not, he’s still an “expensive” asset and I’m sure this element was also very carefully considered.
Going to be interesting to see if he’s “sold”, “loaned” or just given away…
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Yeah fair points Sean. I realise the cases are extremely different. I can only think Utd knew there was no way of him ever being found guilty, hence the original plan to reintegrate him.
Seemingly Utd have had a number of proposals for him already. He’ll either run his contract down or go for a minimal fee after a loan I’d imagine. Frustrating, to say the least, for Utd who not only have to pay a lot of money to replace him but get almost nothing for years and years of training and developing him. Still, the price of reintegrating him was always going to outweigh the loss of not getting anything for him.
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Banjo, there was no possibility of sweeping under the carpet and fans made it clear they weren’t having him. Completely different to partey case. The videos and audio on social media made it impossible to just say charges were dropped let’s move on.
They needed to investigate it thoroughly and I think they have, and I commend them for it. They would have thought about reintegration as a possible scenario but the backlash made it clear it wasn’t viable.
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“Still, the price of reintegrating him was always going to outweigh the loss of not getting anything for him.”
Exactly Ed, and I want to say in all honesty how much I sympathise with you as a fan. It hasn’t been talked about, but as well as possibly ruining his own career he denied you the player he could have been for you, and there is nothing wrong with being gutted about that from a selfish pov either. I would be bud.
It’s a damn shame, but nothing more utd or utd fans could have done to reach a better outcome
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