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  • #212287
    CM
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      Don’t blame Nil at all. He is clearly passionate about his club and has recently witnessed his club go through it’s most successful spell in 30 years. He wears his heart on his sleeve when it comes to Liverpool and over the years, the club has built a rivalry against City.

      If City didn’t break rules, then Liverpool would have won a lot more. Pep would not have the financial advantage he had during his early years at City and probably would not have been as successful, we all know he would not have been at City if he didn’t have the advantage he did.

      Difference between City and Liverpool has been, one club has been built on morals, whilst the other has been built on sport washing, cheating and is a PR marketing tool for the UAE. They literally sold their soul and the hypocrisy of most of their fans who once were telling people they were the real Manchester club is there for us all to see.

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      #212289
      Chucky McChuckface
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        Can’t believe PPT is coin gout with that troupe about innocent unitl guilty… can somebody repost all those emails along with Mancini’s UAE bank accounr?

        Anyway, come on Newport!! Thought that was done and dusted at 0-2…

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        #212290
        Chucky McChuckface
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          That was the kiss of death…

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          #212291
          sean the sailor
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            Paul , of course i wouldn’t as i supoort liverpool lol

            Its a compliment to city that i find their games boring as they dominate every game. They have won the last 4 out of 5 leagues. They are to good and it is boring them dominating everything

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            #212292
            Adlab
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              CM What information do you have that “City broke the rules” Please share it. City say they haven’t broken rules.
              Of course Liverpool have been cheated. Or just not as good with a manager who can’t change tactics. Maybe that’s a possibility.
              Incidentally you might be interested in one thing. Through my accountancy contacts, part of the evidence that City are showing is that there are a number of other teams that “broke the rules”. I don’t know which but they are being investigated too. Hence it would be baf for the EPL product. A guy I know who deals with commercial cases including sports cases and is in specialist Chambers reckons a deal will be done on lack of cooperation with a limited fine.
              Most of the charges are perceived lack of cooperation

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              #212294
              Chucky McChuckface
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                So the 115 are “innocent” because everybody else does it? So they’re not actually innocent, they’re just as guilty as everybody else, which doesn’t make them any less guilty?

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                #212298
                CM
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                  Adlab-

                  City failed to cooperate with the PL and also Uefa when being asked to.

                  City were found guilty by Uefa and had their CL ban reduced to a substantial fine instead. They only escaped because of a technicality.

                  City commercial revenue is laughable and is larger than some of the biggest clubs in the world. How is that possible?

                  They then need 30 lawyers to help them weasel their way out of this. Certainly sound innocent to me.

                  Der Spiegel released emails of City cheating and inflating their revenue. City have never denied these emails ever being fake and have said their were criminally obtained.

                  But City say they are innocent, the only arguement City fans have to claim they are innocent.

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                  #212300
                  Nike19
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                    Happy with the draw with it being at home. Loads and loads of football. Scary as International Breaks will kick in too with it being Euros and plus the Europa League.

                    The young uns’ have stepped and kudos to them. Plus kudos all season to the examples of Zobo, Macca and Gravenberch. We are now getting players back. Hope for Bajectic and Thiago so that we can utilize our squad. Our Defense most importantly have grown to be on Top of Their game.

                    Exciting and Anxious months lie ahead.

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                    #212301
                    threeps
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                      Adlab just watch thr video I posted on the City page, explains how ‘innocent’ you were following the CAS report and how it came to its decision.

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                      #212302
                      CM
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                        If City get done for lack of cooperation with a limited fine, doesn’t that open a can of warms. Considering clubs have had points deducted for cooperating and followed the protocols after being asked to cooperate.

                        Does that mean in order to escape significant punishment, you just do not cooperate.

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                        #212303
                        Adlab
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                          If City have done wrong it will be shown whether it is true or not. If true then we will see what the consequences are.

                          As for the number of lawyers. When I was working we had to deal with a case of a company migrating to Ireland. It was quite complex and had to go to the House of Lords .now the Supreme Court From beginning to end there were over 20 lawers involved. So if Ciry are using 30 I don’t see that as any indication of anything other than lots of drudgery.
                          When I was training and newly qualified the audit etc of one of the major banks needed 70 or 89 staff, maybe more if you count juniors

                          Let’s just wait and see.

                          PS How poor were United against Newport. Ten Hag for Liverpool

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                          #212304
                          Makaveli
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                            Well said CM.

                            Man City are not innocent. There is bags of rock-solid evidence out there. It just comes down to if they can get away with it via technicalities and that may legally be “not guilty”, but it is not innocent.

                            The only reason they can make any claim towards “not guilty” is because UEFA ran out of time when trying to punish them. That is the ONLY reason. It’s an uncomfortable truth for some City fans, who want to scream about how they are innocent until proven guilty… Ya, don’t expect much sympathy in that case, because it’s been an uncomfortable time for the rest of us, who’ve had to watch on as your club tainted the PL and the CL.

                            The PL really should have dealt with this sooner than 10 years after this all started. They are partially responsible for the desecration of modern football.
                            Something will have to be done though, regardless of who gets what blame. This will have to be set right. The joy of titles to Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal has been stolen but they can still set the record straight at least. Do that and let those clubs handle City in the courts. Obviously, they need to be banished from the PL too.

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                            #212305
                            Makaveli
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                              “If City have done wrong it will be shown whether it is true or not.”

                              It has been though and you’re all in denial. So, if you didn’t accept UEFA’s charges then why would you accept these ones?

                              If this were Liverpool, would I be saying “technically we’re innocent” and you’d be seeing the bloody obvious?

                              We don’t need to find anything else out to know for a fact that City are guilty. We only needs to see if they can get away with it. Are you interested in guilt, or in what they can get away with?

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                              #212321
                              gjblues
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                                “That’s the issue though, if you say what you feel about the club, the fans on here will feel it’s an attack on them…..” Mak from two days ago.
                                Not sure they feel it’s an attack on them but everyone has the right to defend their club Mak. I’m sure you’ll agree, as your previous histrionics on this site prove that if anyone says anything negative about Liverpool, you post a response quicker than you can say ‘Klopp’s taking a sabbatical’.

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                                #212335
                                Alfie_1
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                                  The problem with the case is that it is really hard to prove. They have to persuade the panel that top executives of various companies (abeit linked via the city holding group owner) all contrived to break various rules and probably laws, when undoubtably they could have just signed for better terms in the first place.

                                  Whilst the emails show a clear and deliberate act to cheat, they will have to show intent as well and that may be hard to prove, especially in a case like this where the PL will focus on getting the evidence permited to be used. Tehy may take their eye off the ball and forget to prove the case.

                                  Then you’ll have all the numpties telling eveyone that city are innocent, when clearly they are nothing of the sort.

                                  Remember that CAS said that some of the FIFA charges were not proven on appeal, and others time barred. That doesn’t mean the time barred ones would have been held up. I am assuming the PL are going through the CAS ruling and building a stronger case, but they might end up being as inept as everyone else.

                                  Pep to replace Klopp in the summer, so he has a chance of keeping one PL winners medal?

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                                  #212336
                                  Chucky McChuckface
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                                    That last sentence made me larff….

                                    Here’s another scnerio to twist your nipples… Spuds somehow actually finish one point ahead of Liverpool to clinch the title and we’ll get to hear about the “disallowed” goal forever and ever and ever…. 🙂

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                                    #212342
                                    Makaveli
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                                      “Not sure they feel it’s an attack on them but everyone has the right to defend their club Mak. I’m sure you’ll agree, as your previous histrionics on this site…”

                                      Considering that I was actually hinting to Nil that he should look out for the feelings of other clubs supporters on here makes your attack on me a bit strange. Then the talk about histrionics is incredibly ironic, and you should probably go take a nap.

                                      My histrionics are entirely historical, yours are right now.
                                      First Man City fan who wants to talk about history to a Liverpool supporter. It had to happen some time.

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                                      #212343
                                      Makaveli
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                                        Alfie, good one.
                                        That made me wonder, this must be the best-worst time for Utd fans. They get to see ₥₳₦¢H€$₮€₹ ¢I₮¥ get stripped of all their trophies and relegated so hard that they end up back in time in the Vauxhall conference, with Liverpool key players, manager and awesome backroom staff sailing off into the sunset.

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                                        #212345
                                        Chucky McChuckface
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                                          Literally sailing on into the sunset…. and leaving you behind!!

                                          Part of me does think it’s going to be a bit of a poisoned chalice, the Pool gig… we all know what happen to YooUtd and the Goonies when their legendary managers left…

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                                          #212346
                                          Makaveli
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                                            ₳h ¥a, the₹e’$ ju$t no wa¥ that we’ll not go th₹ough $ome ve₹¥ ₹ough time$ (if we lo$e $ome of the top pla¥e₹$ that i$). if we can keep Van Dijk, $alah, ₳li$$on and the othe₹ top pla¥e₹$ then we have a chance of ₹emaining in the champion$ League etc but even though Van Dijk ha$ co₹₹ected what he $aid a bit, it wa$ ve₹¥ telling of hi$ f₹ame of mind. Wo₹₹¥ing $tuff but thi$ i$ the wa¥ of football/life. Up$ and down$.

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