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  • #177822
    Anonymous

      If they stupid enough to ban the clubs domestically then that will be the end of the EPL as far as it’s mass appeal exists. The other teams can still compete for points cause then you will have all the other clubs who finish high enough competing in the old boring soon to lose mass sponsorship CL. Guess the old gaurd is worried where their wages or stolen money will come from.

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      #177823
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        Moos,you get all your 3 teams in the ESL. Can’t complain at that πŸ˜‚

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        #177824
        Pagan
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          Pity crowds aren’t allowed in, I’m sure the Leeds fans would have been quite vocal about the proposed ESL last night…..Pagan

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          #177825
          sean the sailor
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            Ed, Klopp had a little dig about Neville about the using the liveroool
            Anthem ynwa to have a go at the club.

            Wasn’t much in it. Neville is very passionate about all this and him
            And Carragher were excellent last night.

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            #177826
            Luckydestiny
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              This was inevitable though, remember conversations years ago between us regards a super league

              Sky/BT and UEFA are just redundant middle men as far as the top clubs are concerned

              Why settle for what UEFA agree when you could broadcast the games yourself, what use is UEFA if you can fund and organise the competition yourself?

              The sad thing is none if this actually addresses the underlying causes of financial instability, which is simply the amount of money being paid to players and agents, that will only get worse

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              #177829
              Mikus LFC
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                Interestingly, the apparent reason why there are no German teams signed up is because of the 50+1 per cent fan ownership rule requiring supporters to have majority voting rights at each club. Commercial investors cannot own more than 49% of a club. Apparently the culture secretary is exploring this option but I’m not sure how this could be done. It could all get very ugly. I think the seed to all this was sown long ago with the advent of the premier league. I can’t see how that can now be undone. It’s like the authorities would be trying to close the stable door 30 years after the horse has bolted.

                Via https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1384039309938991104?s=20

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                #177830
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                  That’s it Mikus. As good as the 50+1 rule sounds, I can’t see them being able to enforce it now.

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                  #177831
                  Nike19
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                    Sean, I was thinking about that too. I think it was just all in the heat of the moment. Neville was more angry at his own club at the time and the Glaziers.

                    Looking back, this is where it stemmed from 20 years ago. United fans I recall at the time didn’t welcome this at all. Possibly some out there may have even predicted for this to happen from that point of time.

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                    #177833
                    Brian blue
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                      Mikus, you are right, the seed was sown at the advent of EPL. It all started when the TV and Betting companies took active interest. Some call it progress, I have yet to be convinced and I would never let a son of mine run around with a betting advert on his shirt. We have to face facts now that every corner of the game is a money making opportunity and it is ruthlessly exploited. I wonder how much the new shirts will costs in the future? One thing the fans can do is stop buying the rip off costs and put it in the kids saving box, makes me wonder how some families can afford it in these difficult times

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                      #177834
                      Mikus LFC
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                        It sums up the country Ed. We’re quite happy to let foreign companies buy up our family silver and praise all the money and investment that follows from it. But then when said company decides to move production elsewhere we’re then powerless to stop it and have to start begging them not to.

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                        #177835
                        Brian blue
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                          Mikus…I think the 50+1 rule could easily be circumnavigated and it probably happens in Germany but the principle is good. Investors will want to invest in a well managed club where possible future investment needs to be made. In my view that aspect is unlikely to come from the fans side, they have there shares and that will be there effort, nothing wrong with that, until the clubs need money, which they all do in time , no matter who they are

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                          #177836
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                            Besides, let’s wait and see re the German clubs before we start hailing their model as the solution to all this. As admirable as their stance is so far, if this really does get off the ground, are they going to stand by and become a second-rate European club in order to save face? There is zero chance PSG won’t be involved, considering their owners’ strategy and ambitions, so the German sides will be left out in the cold if they stick to their guns.

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                            #177837
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                              There is, of course, the chance that the German clubs re-model themselves as the people’s clubs of Europe and them sticking to their guns could at least cement their place as the undisputed kings of the non-Super League clubs. They could essentially be the club of choice for the “legacy fans” who defy everything to do with the ESL. Whether or not the financial gains from that could weigh up for the huge decrease in CL money is another question.

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                              #177838
                              Anonymous

                                Anyone know what satellite stations will be televising the ESL games, I need to make sure we have it or get it.

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                                #177839
                                Nike19
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                                  It’s ultimately from one extreme to another. An example of what a club is prepared to pay both in transfer fee and wages to a player. His head is turned by someone else.

                                  You then have owners whole want to develop their empire and expand with more fingers in a pie.

                                  Even a Pandemic can’t alter this horrible cycle. There are communities that have been relying on transportation of food and essentials delivered to their doorstep. People risking their lives.

                                  Those that have dedicated their heart and soul most importantly attending grounds have been completely dismissed. All it spells to me a cluster of the rich gathered round a Table playing Poker and in a Bubble of their own.

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                                  #177841
                                  Chucky McChuckface
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                                    I wonder if, at the very least, UEFA will have the kahunas to “ban” the Dirty Dozen from next seasons CL/EL regardless of what happens with the Super-Duper league… obviously if it’s up and running then there isn’t anything to discuss, but if it isn’t I wonder if UEFA suddenly finds a spine of some sort.

                                    I bloody hope they do, but I can’t help feeling they won’t… my spidy sense tells me all “12” will in the pot for the new “revamped” version until a “compromise” can be found.

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                                    #177843
                                    Blaze
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                                      I can tell you now if those teams are banned from competing in any tournaments within their country those competitions will lose seriously financially and that’s what the main fear is all about.

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                                      #177846
                                      nine nine nine
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                                        Ceferin appeared to offer an olive branch to the rebel clubs owners on Tuesday, however, by saying, β€œGentlemen, you made a mistake. There is still time to change your minds.”

                                        And sources have told ESPN that UEFA are not considering the expulsion of clubs from their competitions this week and that next week’s fixtures will go ahead.”

                                        Less threats more discussion is the way to go!!!

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                                        #177847
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                                          It would be a huge climbdown now by those clubs to just say “oh OK then, sorry about all that”. They’ve definitely done their homework and unless Uefa make huge concessions which give them more power and control than they have today, I can’t see them just going back on it all.

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                                          #177848
                                          Pagan
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                                            It would be unsurprising if the ESL was suddenly rebranded the UESL, with absolutely no difference except a small payment annually to UEFA and several brown envelopes to those at the top….Pagan

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