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I cannot see the issue. People just like to get upset.
If the rules were stricter he would never had played for Ireland in the earlier matches and simply delayed the decision until the last minute.
Works both ways. Love the fact that Andy Townsend and Kevin Kilnane have got upset over it.
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In Jurgen Klopp’s words, Alfie “it’s how it is”. I think it’s down to the level of importance and that being the 2 cocktails of Sport and Country Representation.
Maybe in another instance, a big deal wouldn’t be made of it as such.
Slight tangent being the Gallagher Brothers born and bred in Manchester but have Irish Parents, and Noel owned a Guitar with a Union Jack pasted on it.
I think though at one point when asked whether he’d be interested in getting involved for the England Anthem of Euro 96 he took exception which opened the door for Badiel, Skinner and Ian from the Lightening Seeds.
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That’s a really good point Alfie about him having delayed playing for them at all until the last minute if the rules were different
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Tony Cascarino made the same point Ed on Talksport this morning. I can’t see any way around it without FIFA agree to change the rules but it will lead to dual nationality players delaying their decision but is that a bad thing?
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You would think ricec was the next pele lol.
Average player who has a great chance of getting in the England midfield as it’s full Of average players.
The chap is English. Best of luck to him.his decision needs to be respected and I’ve no idea why anyone would get upset about it.
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Best English central midfielder at the min is Harry winks in my opinion. Very impressed with him Recently
Rice is actually a centre half by trade
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Very sensible stuff from Alfie and Sean. I too am confused as to why it’s even a problem/issue. Sure I can understand discussion on it but to actually have an emotional reaction to any of this, just doesn’t seem rational to me.
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For me its simples, if you start allowing players to swap and change national teams, you might as well allow transfers and make it like club football…
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Papers are going overboard with it here mak.
People just looking for something to moan about.
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Only the person knows what nationality they feel closest to. If it was the case he was tempted into playing for Ireland because they struck first or whatever it may have been, then I don’t think anyone would have a problem with him later switching if that’s how he truly felt. If it was the case however that somebody chose to play for a country because they felt it gave them more of a chance to play international football then I don’t think that’s in the spirit of national identity (even if the adopted country in that instance don’t mind and both parties saw it as a beneficial marriage). The big problem in that case however, is how you would prove such a thing?
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“It’s got to come down to the nation that you feel “home” to.”
Exactly this. Well to us supporters anyway, might be different to pros that might see one country further their career prospects rather than another.
I think the football way, whilst not perfect, is certainly better than some other sports. Take athletics, when you have many African runners not good enough for their national team switch their “nationality” to other nations where they are no 1 in the team. (I thought about doing this when I was a bit of a sprinter in my younger days, as I noticed I was faster than the Cook Islands 400m runner at the Olympics!).
I don’t understand why someone would abuse a player about switching nationality. Football really does bring out the worst in people unfortunately.
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I respect all your views but here begins the problem…too many options and variations on what is possible. It is more easy to abuse the rule than adhere to it.Recently in Rugby the french coach said he would not pick anybody who was not French, I guess he means French born. This is another take on the subject but I do see it getting rather silly and switching nations will be a convenience rather than a country factor
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PS to last…..it is not for an individual to decide what nationality best suits him, birthright is not a negotiable thing….but maybe it is in sport
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Pick an eligible country when your old enough/good enough, fair enough, but swapping countries is a bit cheeky…
Under Rugby rules, I can play for England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, US, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Finland and possibly Denmark (if those last two had teams, no idea!!), you telling me that’s sensible?? And that’s before I switch countries…
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Each sport has to make up it’s own rules which best suits them.
TBF football is no where near as bad as other sports.
If people look at themselves and think themselves as a certain nationality then fair enough. It’s about honesty and integrity at the end of the day and those two words don’t often sit well with sport where every advantage is sought.
The lad was born in London to English parents. You could argue that Ireland should never have asked him to play for them in the first place.
Not sure there is a right or wrong answer here.
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Got no problem with him picking Ireland over England, but after playing for Ireland who know’s how many times at multiple levels, and know developed into a player who might have a shout at an England career, he’s swapped
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Three p’s, true on your last line.
It’s all getting a bit PC. As long as no rules are breached, what business is it of anybody else’s?!
I don’t even know why anybody should care in the first place!
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But I think we can question stupid rules Silly Nilly Willy, I’m not a number, I’m a free man!!!
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Ireland is a funny case with nationality even without considering football. You can go back 2 generations as long as one grandparent had Irish nationality at the time of your birth. Hell even I have an Irish passport! It’s my Brexit contingency plan (i was born in Northern Ireland so eligible for British and Irish passport).
Think I read somewhere because of the 3rd generation thing that Ireland has a footballing pool of about 120 million due to most of the East coast of the USA being of Irish decendency.
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