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  • #69309
    Chelsea.man
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      I would agree letting Pedro makes sense, but letting Willian without a fight could look a stupid idea and will come back to bite us. he still has 2-3 years left in him, and he seems content at Chelsea and in London. i hope the club has a plan in place for that issue. letting Giroud is normal, i would have liked to keep him and give him a prominent role now that we are said to be signing a player who is an assist master. i would also let Jorginho join Juventus to keep Kante amd i his prefered position. and i would also try to deploy Loftus Cheek next to Kante in some games. Kovacic would be the man who will play next to him when we are facing bigger opposition.

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      #69313
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        Chelsea man, not sure where you get your Sancho information from but he was last year’s young player of the year and in the team of the season in the Bundesliga, with the most assists in the league and a lot of goals. Half a season? He’s in his third season ?.

        You’re doing him a huge disservice there. Not that I think we’ll get him with no CL again but I’d love him at Utd. He’d walk into any PL team.

        Β£100mil will look like peanuts for him at his age with his potential.

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        #69378
        maverick1973
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          If Birmingham City can demand Β£50m for a 16-year-old kid,then Sancho going for Β£100m makes perfect sense.When you read that WHU are demanding Β£80m for D.Rice,and Β£100m Leicester demands for Maddison,then you realise the market is gone completely bonkers.

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          #69533
          Chelsea.man
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            Personally, i wouldn’t say Sancho is that special, good player yes, but he is unproven at the highest level. and if you think the German league is that tough just ask Michy Batshuayi, he has been scoring for fun when he went there half a season on loan. so be careful when judging players who come from other leagues, because the grass isn’t always the same. Sancho hasn’t played in a tough league, he hasn’t won anything yet, he has only played consistently half a season so far, and if he has won the young player, them someone else might have won the senior player award. so you can’t justify because B’gham City wants Β£50 million for their player. Sancho is worth Β£30 million, that is his true market value.

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            #69543
            nine nine nine
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              A player is only worth what a buying Club is prepared to pay.

              Β£50m for Bellingham at aged 16 is a huge risk as imo Sancho at over Β£100m at aged 20 next month would be.

              Personally I haven’t seen enough of either to offer a sensible opinion either way but given the intense interest in Sancho from a number of Clubs he must have something.

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              #69622
              maverick1973
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                9s-Thats the problem mate,some teams are ready to pay up whatever it takes.I wouldnt have paid more than Β£25m for Maguire,let alone Β£80m.Imho every single player is extremely overrated x10.

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                #70321
                nine nine nine
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                  “France Football are claiming that Chelsea have begun conversations with Dortmund winger Jadon Sancho’s entourage about a possible summer move.”

                  Wow if true and he’s a boyhood blue too!?

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                  #70340
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                    Nine, I hope it’s not the silly money that the press is quoting. and on the other hand, I don’t if Coutinho could be useful to offer us creativity in the no 10 position. and if we can arrange a loan deal with them with the view of buying him at a reasonable price.

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                    #70356
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                      Chelsea man, I disagree big time. Using that logic, we have no idea how good Mbappe is either as the French league is an even lower level than the German league. Sancho has scored the most goals of any teenage ever in that league. Again, the most assists in the whole league last season.

                      I suspect you’ll quickly change your tune if the Chelsea rumours turn out to be true.

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                      #70362
                      Chelsea.man
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                        Ed

                        I’m sceptical about this Sancho price tag. historically our high price signings often struggle with the weight of the price tag. and I don’t want to see what we have seen in the past. Mpabe has proven himself at the world stage, he has played a prominent role in the world cup win. on top of that, he was part of the Monaco team that swept teams for fun. but Sancho is totally a different case. he has no experience at world stage, he hasn’t won anything yet, but is said to command that price tag. I’m open to being proven wrong, but I won’t back down for now.

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                        #70366
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                          He’s already reached his tally from last season, too. In the current market, with the likes of Pepe fetching nearly Β£80mil, Mahrez at over Β£60mil etc, Β£100mil would be an absolute snip for Sancho at his age.

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                          #70368
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                            No I get It Chelsea man. Ferguson was sceptical about the price tag of Hazard because there were cheaper options and Hazard wasn’t proven beyond the French league. We got Kagawa instead, thinking we’d saved ourselves millions. We were the only losers in that one, though. Sometimes you have to just pay the going rate for the best young talents.

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                            #70377
                            Chelsea1967
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                              when looking at the money we paid for Morata of 70 million pounds, in comparison is 100 million for Sancho so disproportionate?

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                              #70491
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                                Ed

                                You are too harsh on Mahrez, he has proven himself and was one of the reasons why Leicester won the league him, Vardy and Kante. amd on the other hand, Sancho has won nothing and hasn’t led a team as a main man. i saw him play for England and he looked average to me. Hazard has won the French league before he joined Chelsea in 2010/11 a season before his Chelsea nove. and Ferguson refused the agent fees according to his autobiography.

                                But Β£130 Million for Sancho is madness and i don’t know how to justify that. of the players that cost more than the Β£100 million mark, all are proven players. i hope i’m wrong but i fear that could now work as the Media in England win’t give him the time he needs to bed in.

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                                #70534
                                Chelsea.man
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                                  Well, what else can we do? the authorities have already decided who they want to win this game.

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                                  #70841
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    I’m now beginning to think what previously would have been unthinkable but with all his injuries this season and not quite being the dominant force he was for whatever reasons perhaps we should take the likely Β£100m on offer from Real for Kante in the Summer and add it to the Summer transfer fund.

                                    As soon as I saw the starting line up and the front three I thought a draw is the best we can hope for here and the inadequacies of who was operating VAR robbed us of even that opportunity.

                                    This season we shouldn’t really be competing for 4th place given all the circumstances the fact we are says more about the teams around us than anything else we need a great Summer transfer window to solve the obvious problems and Frank needs to be given time we are a Club in transition and it’s going to take time and some very clever transfer trading to get back to being anywhere close to where we were.

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                                    #70902
                                    Chelsea.man
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                                      Now after the dust settles, and everyone vents their anger, the question that begs to ask is, where do we go from here? isn’t it the time that we change our playing style? isn’t it the time that some players are dropped? losing to that crap United team three times in a season is a painful one to take. Frank has been stubborn lately., he knew Batshauyi has been finished at the club. and Giroud was the better option, but still opted to play him? certain players are out of form in the winter period.

                                      I would restore Kepa because he has been dropped for two games and we have conceded 4 goals suggests he is not the problem. Reece James is very solid, but I’m not sure if Azpi is similar. so Lampard new United would deploy 5 at the back, why not select Alonso and play wing-backs? I’m comfortable with Christensen at the heart of our defence. where is Tomori, please?

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                                      #70909
                                      Chelsea.man
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                                        Now, our primary need after the striker is a defensive midfielder who can protect our back four. we are clearly lacking that figure who can sit and do the job quietly. i think that should be at the top of Lampard’s wishlist in the summer.

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                                        #70970
                                        Chelsea.man
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                                          Based on the current form, Willian doesn’t deserve to be given a contract. but our problems go deeper than Willian. also, I can’t fault Alonso as he rarely starts for us this season. likewise, Giroud rarely played for us this season. so all of those players rarely play for us this season. we need to sort our central midfield and central defence pairings. that is where we are losing games.

                                          The rules of the game are if you defend better, you have a better chance of scoring goals, but we are missing that point. a solid defence is bases of success. and we need to take the bull by the horn. for instance, Azpi needs to step aside and bring in a natural left-footed left-back. even if they are suspect in defending, they will offer us the opportunity to cross with their natural foot, rather than try to adjust to the other.

                                          Reece James looks to have nailed that right-back spot, so we need to get another left-back even if it will mean getting one from our academy. at least we will have patience with them as he will be learning.

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                                          #70985
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                                            Not a nice feeling being robbed but then again we didn’t do emough, everyone to blame not only Lampard, you have to take it.

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