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The Bentley fee Blackburn got also takes in account Arsenal got £7m.

If you look at my site, they have added that fee on Arsenal.

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When City bought Macken, United received £1m. That fee is accurate, just not when United received the money.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/mar/05/newsstory.sport8

I noticed you site had the Stam fee in for the 97-98 season.

Think the net spend is pretty accurate with a few million being off here and there, it just your site has players bought in between July and August for the previous season when it should be he following season.

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Tugay-

Far from wrong bud.

92-93- £215.000 net
93-94- £285.000 net
94-95- minus £3.9m net
95-96- £2.9m
96-97- £500,000 net
97-98 – minus £2.5m

So the figures is roughly-£40000
https://www.transferleague.co.uk/manchester-united/english-football-teams/manchester-united-transfers

Blackburn spent £30m net
https://www.transferleague.co.uk/blackburn-rovers/english-football-teams/blackburn-rovers-transfers

Newcastle is pretty accurate too https://www.transferleague.co.uk/newcastle-united/english-football-teams/newcastle-united-transfers

Liverpool is £29m net between those times
https://www.transferleague.co.uk/liverpool/english-football-teams/liverpool-transfers

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You know you’re having a really bad season when you start a thread from when milder and scully were popular

A bad season? Extremely generous there. A bad decade is more accurate.

Theres nothing good to say about this United side, so I have to go back a number of decades.

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Apologies Blackburn spent £3m net. Massive fire sale after Jack Walker left.

But leading up to their title win, they spent £19m net. United spent -£900,000.

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Not sure why my response to Tugay was not posted.

Looking at the below website, the fees mentioned in my original post are pretty accurate. United’s was -£40000

Blackburn net spend within that time was £30m.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/

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Tugay-

I believe the figures go up to the players bought in before the 98-99 season. So from seasons 92-93 to 97-98.

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What on earth was City fan Chris Wood doing today. His finishing was dubious to say the least.

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Blatant Corruption pic.twitter.com/9iU8f1gr95

— Tyson (@UnitedTyson) April 27, 2024

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Agree Sean.

It doesn’t help that these experts of the game we call pundits move the goalposts too.

Yesterday Gernacho went down in the penalty box to a similar challenge to what Liverpool got against United. MOTD pundits were saying the Liverpool penalty was stonewall, but Gernacho was looking for it.

Everyone on MOTD unanimous that Garnacho instigated the contact hence it was not a penalty against Burnley.

So Liverpool shouldn't have been awarded this then, should they? pic.twitter.com/txsmQh3Fdl

— Notch 🎅 (@CraniumO) April 27, 2024

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I will keep saying this after watching the shambles yesterday from our so called top officials.

The game is corrupt.

There is something not right. Gakpo incident, several incidents in the United game and the Chelsea Vs Villa game.

Officials with the technology they have in place to support them, should not be getting so much wrong.

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I agree regarding the charisma bit and it could have a knock on effect. But we have had managers come in with a smile and end up looking the complete opposite when the challenge arises.

One thing regarding United that rarely gets mentioned is the club has only had 3 title winning managers. considering Liverpool successful spell in the 70s and 80s, they had 4. City have had 3 since the takeover. That itself could tell it’s own story with how often the club has got it wrong.

I have relatives in Amsterdam and although they are Ajax fans(some saying this move is fairly soon for Slot), are happy for Slot because he is a likeable character….quite similar to Klopp. Regardless of how much I hate Liverpool, I always had a soft spot for Klopp because Liverpool should never have competed against City considering what they spent in comparison to City, United and Chelsea, but he literally did. That is admirable in itself.

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Looking at the options, I am more than happy for Ten Hag to be given another season under the Ineos leadership.

Don’t want Tuchel, Potter, Southgate anywhere near my club.

Get rid of the lack of passion dickheads and I am sure we will be fine.

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He’s definitely having us on 😂🤣🤣 pic.twitter.com/8W3QLnjO82

— HM (@MUnitedGirl) April 27, 2024

Is cannabis still legal in Amsterdam?

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After losing key players in Henderson, Fabinho, and Firminho.

The injuries that Liverpool have had. You have to give credit that they even challenged Arsenal and City.

That is down to Klopp, that is the difference between an elite manager and good manager. Klopp gets an extra out of players and has done.

Unfortunately for Liverpool fans, the players have ran out of steam.

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Threeps-

The last 5 successful managers in the PL have been Pep, Klopp, Jose, Wenger and Ferguson.

4 of those put their name on the map with what they achieved in Europe, along with domestically. If Klopp was only successful in the Bundesliga, then Liverpool would not have hired him imo. If Ten Hag was only successful in the Dutch league, then United would not have hired him. If Jose did not win the CL with Porto, then Chelsea would not have hired him. If Ferguson didn’t beat Real Madrid with Aberdeen, then chances are United would not have hired him.

But I do agree, charisma plays a part. 4 of those had charisma and played good football. That’s why the top clubs ended up chasing them. It was also how they did away from their own leagues.

Regarding Zidane and Tuchel. Zidane has never tested himself outside of Madrid and Tuchel isn’t a bad manager. Looks like Chelsea regretted sacking him.

Klopp was already a well known name after Dortmund and I was genuinely concerned when Liverpool hired him. Regarding Arne Slot, I am just not convinced. He could end up being a success, but he has big shoes to fill and this is Edwards 1st managerial appointment in football. Good at player recruitment, but doesn’t have a track record with the managerial side of things.

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Adding to my comment above

Klopp walked into a right mess at Liverpool, so i dismiss your point about Klopp and the structure.

In 2016, Liverpool hired Edwards. Look at the recruitment during his time, which helped Klopp identify the players who contributed to Liverpool’s success and look at the recruitment after he left. Not many Liverpool fans are happy with the players brought in.

United lost David Gill when Ferguson retired and hired someone who clearly was out of depth. Look at the mess he made. So having a good structure does contribute in success.

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Your last paragraph makes zero sense. Firstly, which utd managers were compared to Fergie and how?

David Moyes was compared to Ferguson. When it was spoken about how he was cut from the same cloth.

You clearly missing the point. Ten Hag was appointed on the back of him doing well in Europe, like Klopp was appointed Liverpool manager at the back of him do it well at Dortmund, they both lost a number of key players who contributed to that success.

Ten Hag won two titles in 5 years and one run to the CL semi final with Ajax.

He won 3 league titles and would have won 4, if the Dutch league was not cancelled because of COVID.

Dortmund this year are in the CL semi final

Beating Real Madrid in their own yard 4-1 and beating a strong Juventus side is more impressive than beating PSV and Athletico Madrid.

Oh right its the poor club structure that led you to start a thread titled “Time for Ten Hag to go”.

I always said if Ten Hag had a good structure in place, it would help. United never did, Klopp saw United didn’t and didn’t accept the job. He saw Liverpool did, and it helped him.

I was not portraying Ten Hag being some success story at United, I mentioned the names on the back of how they became known around Europe and why they got the big jobs after

I may have ruffled your feathers here. But now many Liverpool fans had Arne Slot down in their top 5 list?

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Truthfully Ten Hag would be a success elsewhere. He just walked in to a mess at United and is struggling. If he had a structure similar to what he did at Ajax, like Klopp did at Liverpool, Ten Hag most likely would have been a success. His stubbornness has also been questionable at times.

But that is besides the point. Arne Slot has only won 1 league title in the Dutch league. Ten Hag had a bigger reputation because of what he did at Ajax in Europe and domestically.

Jose was a success at Porto in Europe before going to Chelsea and being a success. Then landing jobs at Inter, Real Madrid and Manchester United.

Poch reputation is based on how well he did at Spurs before landing jobs at PSG and Chelsea.

What has Arne Slot done? His
Feyenoord side didn’t exactly impress anyone across Europe this season. People have not spoken about them up until he was linked to Liverpool and he is going to miss out on the league title to PSV. It is not exactly he is leaving that club on the high.

This he is similar to Klopp is a recipe for disaster. As a United fan, I should know when a manager was constantly being compared to his predecessor.

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Arne Slot is going to be a disaster for Liverpool.

The likes of Ferguson, Jose, Klopp, Pep, Ten Hag made a name for themselves because of what they accomplished in Europe. Ten Hags Ajax were in the semi final of the CL, beating Real Madrid, Juventus and narrowly losing to Spurs.

Klopp showed what he is capable of at Dortmund, when they reached the final of the CL and Ferguson at Aberdeen.

Arne Slot side struggled in the CL and Europa league this season. He hasn’t over achieved, he literally has done well in a poor quality Dutch league. Only winning the title once.

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