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It’s true we deserved to get something from that game today. all of our games par the United and Leicester game in the second half was where we didn’t deserve to get something from a match. and if we continue to play like that with less mistakes. we will be in a good position for sure.
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If true and the figures are correct. then United need to fire Woodward as soon as the season is over. he is a terrible business man. how can you spend that much in 6 years and still not be anywhere near winning the league?
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Gongrats liverpool lads, from your POV a great result, more so because of City’s performance yesterday. You werent at your best today but won away from home, your team have a championship mentality that I havent seen at Pool in my lifetime and I honestly hope you go one better this year and win it.
Does nothing to make the result easier for me to swallow though, I also think we were worthy of a point. Once again we are reminded that you should never celebrate a goal until the VAR review, but for me the biggest reminder is when you get a chance against a team like pool you have to take it. I thought Adrian did superbly in the on on one with Tammy but whether Tammy scores himself or squares to Mount that should have been 1-1 and that is on us, not the VAR or the ref.
Played the champs of Europe twice so far and its 3-4 on aggregate, considering the massive amount of problems we have had to start this season I am actually quite happy with that.
Never mind, at least I can watch Goldbridge’s meltdown on the united stand to take my mind off it 🙂
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No problems Chelsea. It can be frustrating to watch your team play pretty well and come away with nothing, especially in a big fixture.
As for Woodward, it never ceases to surprise me at the money this clown has flushed down the toilet. Utd’s team is so much more expensive than ours, yet they haven’t got a single player who’d make our first 11. Under a top manager that might change, if he got them showing their quality, who knows but… I don’t know why this isn’t being made a huge issue by fans and the media. Why are there no protests? Why have Sky and BT not said a huge amount on the matter? they’ve touched on it here and there but come on.. anyway, I think ole will get the chop after today. I guess it all depends on availability of someone else but he looked like a man beaten.
Of all the Utd players past, he’s the most like-able,. so I’ve nothing against him but he’s out of his depth, or the squad are just an awful mish-mash that you would struggle to get a coherent philosophy from… or both. I know I’m meant to enjoy seeing my rivals in an awful state and although I’d not wish them any titles any time soon, I don’t enjoy them being this screwed up. Our rivalry is historical only, until they get their game together again.
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I remember saying exactly this when we sold Lukaku. Say what you want about him but he was a reliable goalscorer and neither of the ones remaining are that. Troubling times continue at Old Trafford. Matter of time for Ole, sadly
Ed, I remember you saying this when we were discussing utd’s summer business and I was surprised that you didnt think utd had improved. I think you were spot on in retrospect mate. I mean, no surprise a utd fan knows utd better than a chelsea fan but I, and more importantly Woodward and Solskjaer, should have taken that argument in particular more seriously because you look at it now and can only think its gross negligence not to have replaced Lukaku and arguably not to have strengthened midfield too.
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Lucky commiserations and thanks for the good words.
In all sincerity, I though this was the place where we’d drop points today and we were hanging on. The fact that practically all us guys expressed those sentiments says it all. I turned the phone off deliberately! To avoid my Brother updating me. I closed down the BBC Site. Boxes (streamed) were raided yesterday, so I was simply relying on a dodgy computer stream to see me through.
Notably, you need your best and key players like Kante, Alonso, and Willian, Azpi, fit as a Core for the others to then thrive on.
Though it’s early days, by the looks of things, fortunes can be turned around and there’s no reason why Chelsea can’t aspire to a place in the CL.
Cheers
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Nil, if you’re ever stuck for the typical web streams let me know. I watch via them, they are definitely not as good as the paid for illegal ones but I had a fantastic stream today , until the 82nd or so mins when it went down and i had to find another 😉
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Appreciate that Mak, thanks.
I was at work as a Customer (Leicester City Fan) who was at the King Power came up just on the off chance and made me aware of the raid lol 😀 🙂
I didn’t think too much of it at the time, till I got home to find he was right, haha. 🙂
We had quite a chat and I mentioned how I paid a £10r or something like that as a treat for the Liverpool Friday Night Match, Opening Day Of The Premier League Versus Norwich. He mentioned £5 would be a better deal as a ‘Pay Per View’.
I agreed. To be fair, you’re paying nearly £4 a Pint at the Pub, so by this way with a few Tinnies or Bottles, you’re actually better off.
Years ago, I used to be able to subscribe to Setanta Sports where I’m pretty sure I was just paying £10 a month. It was the 08/09 season when we nearly won the Title 🙂
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@Chelsea.man , those figures I believe are correct but are gross figures not taking in to account moneys received and players let go (some very good ones too inc hazard) which is why monies received should be considered also and the gross figures should be ignored. Sky only use them because it inflates things and gives an exaggerated perception.
I found a useful link to put this in perspective with net spend:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9866776/chelsea-transfer-ban-record-profits-player-exits/
Jose’s second spell 2013-15 was net spend of 43m (surprising eh?) Only spent 43m more than we received yet the supposed ultimate chequebook manager built another championship team for us on 43m.
Conte’s spell 2016-2018 net spend was 73m
Sarri 18/19 124m
Lamps summer 19 to present -133m (133m gained)
Chelsea’s net spend since Fergie left utd is therefore 113m. For perspective, city’s net spend over only the period pep has been there is 699m!! see why just comparing gross spends is pointless? It is misleading and paints a false picture. Liverpools net spend since pep arrived is 74m and ours based on the above is 64m, this is on another level all together with city and thats why I have so much respect for how well Klopp and Pool are competing with Pep and all he has going for him.
This is a good link for the city and pool figures
https://www.liverpool.com/liverpool-fc-news/features/liverpool-news-man-city-klopp-16686957
Yeah I know it is a pool page city fans but the sums look sound to me.
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Nil, if we can give you lot two very tough games at this stage of our teams development I am supremely confident things are looking bright for us. We just need to have patience and let Frank bed in as many of the young players as possible, then come next summer we will know for sure the exact positions we have to go to the market for, just like pool after a full season under Klopp. imo we then have to make sure we spend our money as smartly as pool did. If we do that I truly believe we can compete again for the title.
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Lucky, completely agree mate and I think you’ve hit it on the head with your point in sticking with Frank.
It is what it is regarding your current situation in not being able to have access to the Transfer Window. But that in itself may be a blessing in disguise. Really work with what you have got and thrive on more Spirit and Solidarity.
What I’ve noticed is that you’ve not compromised at all and Give Teams A Proper Game With Resilience And Pride.
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Nobody can say Chelsea are boring now nil 🙂
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Chelseaman, correction from my last post, city’snet spend under pep is 475m, it was 699m gross, still miles apart from chelsea and pool
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Lucky @ 9:17, lol were never me 😛 🙂
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Thanks Lucky, but what i still don’t get is that the figures i saw today, are they what United has spent since Ferguson has left and what Chelsea has spent since Roman Abrahamovic bought the club? that is where i’m having some confusion. because there is no way that we have spent 897 million pounds since Ferguson left United. that is where i need clarification. if my suspicion is confirmed. then the problem is not the managers that United had been sacking. the problem is Woodward.
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Ed Woodward has done tons of good things for Utd. He’s the man who supercharged the commercial side of the business to make it the powerhouse it is today. People laugh at our vast array of sponsors but IMO we’ve retained things like the Stadium name, which actually mean something to the fans, and made tons of money wherever else we can. Woodward isn’t a football man though and the sooner he’s moved back to doing what he does best, the better.
I honestly don’t know what the answer is at Utd. It’s not that we don’t have a plan. It’s that our plan changes on a much too frequently basis. One minute we’re all about trophies at any cost. The next buying young and British. We’re in desperate need of a long term strategy. That’s not the same as a long term manager, which is notoriously uncommon these days. You can spend all the money you like on the shiny new players but, without that long term strategy, it won’t be worth it.
People ask why the fans aren’t kicking off. The match going Utd fans are an incredibly loyal bunch. Look at the reception they gave Jose at the Utd Chelsea game, despite his poor spell at Utd. IMO they’re too loyal,though. Ole was never going to work.
As for him being sacked this week, absolutely no chance. He might not have long but no chance of him being kicked out yet. Just had a quick check on odds for the next manager to go. Ole is 8/1 second favourite. Poch is amazingly not far behind on 14/1 though!
It’s without question only a matter of time before he goes though. My fear, though, is that it won’t matter at all whether he goes or stays because my faith in them actually finding the right man is at an all time low.
A loss at home to Arsenal could certainly seal his fate next Monday, despite what I said earlier.
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It’s not what you spend it’s who you spend it on Liverpool bought 4 top strategic players in 6 months from January 2017 when they were already regular contenders for the top 4 place now they are European Champions and very strong contenders to win the title.
United’s transfer strategy went awry originally under the latter years of Ferguson and the regular change of Managers since then haven’t helped that transfer strategy. Equally they’ve seemingly had a poor transfer strategy under Woodward and an inability to get transfers over the line.
There’s every chance that Ole will fall between now and next Summer perhaps sooner rather than later but United’s problems go a lot lot deeper than just Ole and they’ve had 4 Managers now whether they were the right Managers or not each one was appointed by Woodward and the United Board.
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Very decent words from yourself there LD. I’m surprised you lads aren’t talking more about the seemingly late reviewing of your barely offside disallowed goal. I wanted nothing more than to have the score remain 1-0 but when I heard it was scratched off, I immediately thought of how it would be like for that to go against me and also of how this isn’t the greatest side to an even “correct” VAR.
We’ve spoken on here previously and I know you’re in favour of allowing the attackers advantage of marginal calls. What defines the margin? The length of time it takes to check, thats where I say the line should be drawn.
So as much as I didn’t want the scores level, I know in my heart that it’s unfair to leave supporters celebrate in such a fashion, with a seemingly good goal (I didnt spot the offside). ehhh I am not a fan of this phase business and think that offside is offside, generally anyway.. However I’d have allowed this goal as it was so marginal that it took them (seemingly) ages to know for sure. Maybe it wasnt ages and I was just amped up on adrenaline but it seemed wrong to me.
So, forget the actual rules of the game a minute and by my own weird version of them, I’d allow that goal.
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There is another way out of this.
If they want to be absolutely correct.. and this could also be done quickly.
have the players wear location detection harnesses (like the heart rate ones) put a sensor in the ball and detect exactly whether or not a player is offside instantly. The tech is pretty much already in existence thanks to the emergence of VR. 3D location sensing is in a very advanced and constantly advancing state these days.
fuck it, if they want to be correct then maybe they need to go this way about it. If you made the software side of things properly, you’d get near instant reviews too.
A side bonus to this is that the trailing leg or arm wouldnt make for what i call a pretty shitty way or marking someone offside int he first palce. it would go simply on 1 centre mass location and thats f-ing that.
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Ultimately, it’s turns and cyclical.
Do People sincerely diminish and dismiss Liverpool’s 18 League Titles?
We’ve not won it, but it’s sincerely to me, overdue, beyond.
Those other clubs who have dominated and flourished trophies, good. But do consider, there’s always at some point, some one else’s turn.
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