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Nine called for it and damn, why didn’t we do this before! here we are now, the fastest thread to make it to 10 pages 😀
VAR and related discussion begins…… nnnnnnNOW!
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Lol, Yes 😀 🙂
Bet’s this will be used tonight? Ha 😀
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Unfortunately I think between the 2 matches ahead, it’s more likely than not. That is sad.
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Neville making the same point I was saying the other day – the on field referees needs to be more assertive rather than just following Stockley Park’s thoughts. It’s the best way to turn the tide on all this. Leadership is desperately needed.
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Not a peno.
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It was scary at one point. Just for once this season, something came good. I don’t underestimate this conversation and point because things really have gone against us, and people have laughed at us with no real care or measure.
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To be fair, VAR corrected would have been a costly penalty for us tonightg and there’s obviously no argument against it.
This is an odd experience, appreciating VAR but I figured if we’re going to say the bad, we should acknowledge the good.
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well nil, VAR and the new rules have taken 4 points from us this season. I mean, in my opinion. others dont agree and thats fine I guess. VAR gave us an important call though when we were only 1-0 up, which might have led us down a completely different score-line. so look, credit where its due but Im not going to fool myself into thinking they are working the bugs out or anything.
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I’ve had a watch of MOTD2 and seen the “penalty” incident, there is no doubt that VAR correctly changed the decision. What I did notice is no one appealed for a penalty, and I think players on both sides were a little surprised……Pagan
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And little was made of just how well Mane pulled out of that just in time because if it was damn close in slow-mo, it must have been even more impressive in real time.
Controversy at Anfield!
Wolves are awarded a penalty after Sadio Mane is penalised for a high foot… then the referee goes to the monitor and overturns his decision!
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Still cant believe Chelsea were not awarded one against us,I know 9s says we cant do anything about that,but we can be fecking mad about it.
The stupid pen against Brighton,WBA,and one not given to WBA.I cant stand it._____________________________
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Mikus, to be fair to both of them they both pulled out, if it were cricket and the Wolves did as he did and didn’t say it was no penalty, then there would be a great deal of tutting going on….Pagan
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I didnt see the Brighton V Southampton match but they are saying that the peno was controversial.
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I repeat there is nothing wrong with var, it’s the officials behind the camera and on the field who are not astute enough to make the correct decisions. Like last night yet again.
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I’ve had a bit of a think about VAR and why we’re having the problems, for me we have to step back about 100 years or so.
The laws of the game were written and modified for an organic game, where the officials took into consideration the conditions and dynamics of the game. His job was to make sure the game was played in his opinion within the laws of the game and not to let it get out of hand.
Fast forward to now, we’ve had a few minor changes to the laws of the game I’ve the last 20 years or so but the laws of the game have remained pretty much the same. We now have VAR and we seem at least in the Premier League, to have a myriad of problems, this to me seems to be because we have taken the organic officiating out of the game and tried to make the laws of game prescriptive instead. If this hasn’t been possible as in the case of handball we’ve changed the laws of the game.
For me this it’s where it’s gone wrong, instead of changing the laws of the game the authorities should have written how VAR should be used within the spirit of the game sticking to how the laws of the game were written to allow a free flowing game adapted to the conditions and tempo of each individual game. Yes we’ll still get a bit of inconsistency, but hopefully it removes the very obvious mistakes and we live with the odd dubious decisions…..Pagan
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I have to agree with that Moos, nothing wrong with VAR but plenty wrong with how it is finalised and the stupidity of rules that are changing the face of football….not for the better in my opinion Players now play two kind of games, one is football when they get on with it and the other is how to win penalties and free kicks not how you get them. Refs are “easy meat” now I wish we could just watch one Ref stand up and be counted and put some of these players in there place and tell them to get on with the game.Any mass protest against decisions like we see a few red cards to be brandished, after a few weeks maybe they will get the message. Unfortunately we do not have Refs to day capable of common sense decisions and they are fooled too many times, we now rely on technology….wonderful is it not
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There’s been a feeling for many years that “we’ve got to do something!” over some of the wrong decisions that have been awarded, given that we now have better more widespread video technology and communications available. This has been driven by several different groups. But the “we’ve got to do something!” mentality nearly always produces disastrous results because it is based primarily on fear – fear of an injustice, even a minor one, being committed. So it was inevitably going to be utilised to the nth degree and this is the mentality that results from such a thing. As with other things in human history, the pendulum always swings too far the other way initially, so we’ll have to just wait for it to swing back a bit. That may take some time.
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Very profound Mikus but I agree with your sentiment. Too many sledgehammers etc.
VAR is overused and for idiotic decisions EVEN IF they may be technically correct, like a finger offside.
The rules should change so idiotic decisions can be avoided? The offside is easiest. Any part of the body in line is level and onside.
Handball. Not if a players back is to the ball. And so on._____________________________
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There’s a moment in the original Jurassic Park film when Ian Malcolm, played by Jeff Goldblum, says emphatically, “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”
Think that sums up VAR…..Pagan
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Football should not and never be a manipulated game. What we are seeing now maybe part of the “new era” but it does not make it right or even improve the game. Then again, who are the benefactors? I was also sad to read to day that a number of ex leading Rugby players are going to take legal action against the injuries they have received. It is sad to hear this but the flood gates will open in other sports as well, again, who are the benefactors? Well in this case the legal profession who will make more out of it than anyone else.
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