16th June 2020 at 10:05 am #117530CriticalmaKParticipant48 pts
Adlab, the players aren’t allowed to subvert the will of the PL entity. It may seem like it is a valid argument to question why the PL can do what the player can’t but it’s only a false equivalence. The PL can do whatever the hell it wants to with it’s own brand. The players and bodies within must comply. Why should the PL be bound by it’s own rules for it’s members? Are you suggesting that advertising/sponsors not be allowed? of course you’re not. They have been given the ok, just as this has been.
16th June 2020 at 12:34 pm #117611
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Mak… the “ebband flow” you mention I like, just wish it was with 8 teams instead of four, although I am not even sure about the four anymore. With Utd and Redknaps remarks, we have been here before in recent times with big signings that would uplift Utd…..it did not work out for them. I do believe, on paper they have a useful team and I believe they will start the season well, how they go on from the mid point I would have questions. Above all the possibilities is the disruption which will have an effect on ALL teams, in which case we are probably looking at 2021/2 season before you can call it normal. Football is back on the agenda in whatever form it takes, personally, I am a little fearful of changes that maybe made but I think will happen Fans will have little to no say in the matter and as the cost for going to matches will inevitably rise, even ignoring the merchandise will be beyond many. Sponsorship it is said is good for the game, but the fans pay for the sponsorship.16th June 2020 at 1:23 pm #117633
Apart from Liverpool winning the title I think it’s very difficult to predict the outcomes of the CL and EL places or the relegation places similarily the outcome of the Championship in both promotion and relegation which makes many of the final games of the season interesting.
The Fernandes signing has definitely had a positive effect on United and Pogba returning and playing like he can and Rashford fit and back scoring makes them a much more dangerous team.
As for next season it’s even more difficult to predict, both Liverpool and Manchester City will rightly be favourites for the title and the usual suspects as well as some new names will be competing for CL and EL places but much will depend on who signs who in the Summer transfer market which is even more difficult to predict than in previous Summer windows because of Cov19.16th June 2020 at 2:15 pm #117661
“Sponsorship it is said is good for the game,”
Not by me Brian my favourite Chelsea shirt is still the unsponsored unbranded Chelsea shirt of the 1970’s but spondorship has become a significant revenue stream for Clubs and rightly or wrongly it’s a very important revenue stream now for all the major Clubs.
Spurs have had to borrow £175m to get themselves through next season and whilst Spurs might have their own problems with the debt the new Stadium has placed on them and the loss of revenues in not being able to use the Stadium and for more than just football too it is probably also a sign of how this pandemic is likely to impact on all Clubs, inevitably prices will rise and fans will have to pay the price.
We are all unfortunately going to have to pay for the price of this pandemic for years to come given the debt it has placed on the country. Cheers 9’s16th June 2020 at 4:14 pm #117720CriticalmaKParticipant48 pts
Brian, with regards to the 4 or 8 team discussion, I don’t think it’s a simple scenario at all, which means it’s healthier than it appears. True, there are 2 big big sides int he PL right now but just 2 years ago there was only 1. You could even say there was only 1 last season too, kinda.
Right now we have 2 dominant sides because they are truly exceptional teams. Pep and Klopp are arguably the 2 best managers in world football today and they’ve had a lot of time and financial investment in their projects. It’s really only natural that they’d excel and the current gap between them and the other sides (during their high points) makes a lot of sense when you consider the stages that the other big sides are in.
There is absolutely no guarantee that these 2 will finish 1st and 2nd next season. I’d say there odds are pretty high but if you’d bet your house on it, you’d be a fool. There is no way to predict how well Chelsea and Man Utd might do next season. To be clear, when I picked on redknapps comments regards Utd, it wasn’t that i expect them to be rubbish, I was just sticking my nose up at the usual rubbish that you hear from the likes of Sky.
Utd and Chelsea seem to genuinely be moving in the right direction and you never know… Just think how much Liverpool improved in the PL just this season, over last. Why can’t Chelsea or Utd do that? I don’t see the same for Spurs or Arsenal but they are still big clubs that may get it together the year after.
Your request for 8 teams isn’t entirely invalid of course but the PL is not some pisspot league after the top few, even if there is a fair and natural step down from some of the best teams the league has ever seen… but the likes of Leicester and Wolves have got the potential to unsettle the top group. A good summer or 2 from them and you just don’t know what they might do.
Everything is changing and the fact that I’m not even in the slightest bit comfortable with any assumption that Liverpool will win the PL next season, should say a lot about how tough things are at the top in this league.
As for the changes that we’ll see for a while, we’ve got no choice but to handle it. I think we should be happy that football is returning at all and to also consider that we might not yet get a real end to the campaign. A 2nd or 3rd wave may see to that…16th June 2020 at 4:26 pm #117725
Nine…No reference to you on sponsorship, I refer to many that would accept sponsorship out of choice, mine, like yours, I suspect you would prefer without. However, it is not going away and we have to live with it. I do not think it is all the pandemic the cause, but clubs have lost revenue, now, they face the dilemma….how do they get it back, which are the biggest opportunities and from where.
A bit like a SWOT analysis I suppose
I hope things work out better for Utd but I still think they will have a problem on field and management wise, too many divisions at the club and you need a Manager who commands authority in all they do.Pogba mind is somewhere else, Fernades, a very good player, lets see how he goes in a full Premier season, Rashford is your star. However, I am Mancunian so I wish them well. Liverpool need to draft in a couple of players, same for City,if they plan on keeping there progress up16th June 2020 at 4:38 pm #117730
Mak….I enjoyed reading your post, absolutely nothing amiss with your assessment I guess the point we are trying to highlight is why UTD, Arsenal Chelsea cannot up there game. As you point out Wolves and Leicester did it and if they uplift again I will be nearer to my 8!!! All in with a shout.
I, like yourself and many others are still worried about the next likely wave and this occupies me more than football. My strength is patience so being lockdown has not affected me, I have plenty to do to keep me active, even at my ripe old age.
I am going to listen to City v Arsenal on GMR radio to morrow, do not want to watch without fans be there, well, I suppose it could be worse on Radio…we will see
Take care16th June 2020 at 4:43 pm #117735
“Teams will be nervous about United. The likes of Chelsea that are already in the top four will be looking over their shoulder.”
I have to agree with Redknapp given the impact of Fernandes and with the return of Pogba and Rashford as a Chelsea fan I’m a tad nervous about United even though we don’t play them in the run in.17th June 2020 at 8:06 am #118189Chucky McChuckfaceParticipant529 pts
Not long now… the beers are in the fridge, the peanuts in the bowl, and no doubt I’ll get home and disover it’s not in my telly!!17th June 2020 at 11:00 am #118255
Nine, ye I fancy utd aswell mate to be honest. A fully fit utd starting 11 is a decent team
Chelsea have all their players back but i just think utd might get 4th
Is Kane back for spurs?
I think utd will beat them17th June 2020 at 11:03 am #118257
Banjo I’m really looking forward to it.
No crowds etc is off putting but just to watch football I’m interested again is exciting
I just hope Liverpool can get this over the line ASAP
No doubt it will be different but we haven’t won the league in 30 years and it will be absolutely huge for the club and fans17th June 2020 at 11:26 am #118273steveosnakeeyeParticipant265 pts
im looking forward to watching tonight….kinda good as before the virus i was cacking myself, fully expect t lose still but we surely have more chance now than had we played when we were meant to!
apparently the tv channels are giving the option of crowd background noise? if so it could make watching it better…we shall see
let the games begin
i see Bayern won the league, when you think of the first half of the season and their results its still a heck of an achievement
also watched chelsea arsenal or rather chelsea v Kanu!! was great to watch and some pf the absolute quality players and managers was lovely to see, such nostalgia! great game we could and should have lost but for some fighting spirit and a mercurial talent! wish we had half the quality of players now in the team!!!
so enjoy city and pool these group of players wont be around forever!!17th June 2020 at 12:00 pm #118297
Think you might be right Sean it doesn’t feel right to wish a ban on City to help us into a CL place if we can make 5th place but that might be Chelsea’s best chance.
I think we might get a few unusual results over the first few games, Liverpool will want to put the title to bed as quickly as possible.17th June 2020 at 1:12 pm #118345Chelsea1967Participant92 pts
Sterveo, they use crowd background noise with the live Rugby League here and it certainly makes a big difference. Having watched Bundesliga without it I have experienced both options and can appreciate its added value to the viewing experience. I switched off the Bundesliga after a bit because it was so bland. A bit like a training match.17th June 2020 at 1:39 pm #118363
Chelsea have a full squad aswell nine but utds fixtures look easier on paper mate but that’s not always the case
Interesting to see the fitness levels of some of the teams
67, ye I watched hardly any of the German football as it was so dull with no fans etc
I’m hoping a bit of noise will really help17th June 2020 at 2:36 pm #118401
Sean, yep we’ve got some important players back but there’s still uncertainty about Willian and Pedro and questions about Kante’s match fitness plus Chelsea have a much tougher run in than United I wouldn’t write Chelsea off but its not going to be easy and it’s not just United chasing 4th place.
A win on Friday night for United over Spurs and United go ahead of Chelsea into 4th place although Chelsea have the away game v Villa to come but that won’t be easy when they’re fighting for points to stay up.
I’m not sure what the best result for Chelsea is on Friday night? Probably a Spurs win providing Chelsea beat Villa. 🙂17th June 2020 at 2:41 pm #118406
Villa v Sbeff Utd kicks off the PL restart I doubt it will be pretty but City v Arsenal should be.17th June 2020 at 3:04 pm #118420Chucky McChuckfaceParticipant529 pts
4-1 Spuds, told you all already!17th June 2020 at 5:35 pm #118515
Significant Storms in Sunny Somerset currently hopefully they run out of Steam before 8:15 pm17th June 2020 at 5:52 pm #118527PaganParticipant373 pts
I have absolutely no interest in the footy at the moment, without any grass roots it all seem a bit distant.
Weather wise in the Notts/Derby area it’s been torrential rain with constant thunder and lightning for the last hour, looks to be heading North East from here
Enjoy the footy…..Pagan
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