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  • #59164 Score: 1
    threepsthreeps
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    Been mentioned a few times in the press that if Liverpool keep up their relentless winning streak they will be the best ever Premier League team.

    But will they?

    For me even if they break the points record or go unbeaten I think there’s a couple of teams that would be better.

    Here are the contenders:

    Man United 98-99
    Schmeichel
    G.Neville Johnsen Stam Irwin
    Beckham Scholes Keane Giggs
    Yorke Cole

    Arsenal 03-04
    Lehmann
    Lauren Campbell Toure Cole
    Ljungberg Vieira Gilberto Pires
    Bergkamp Henry

    Chelsea 04-05
    Cech
    Ferreira Terry Carvalho Gallas
    Duff Lampard Makelele Robben
    Drogba Gudjohnsen

    Man United 07-08
    van der Sar
    Brown Ferdinand Vidic Evra
    Hargreaves Carrick Giggs
    Ronaldo Tevez Rooney

    Man City 17-18
    Ederson
    Walker Kompany Otamendi Delph
    Fernandinho
    D.Silva De Bruyne
    Sterling Aguero Sane

    Liverpool 19-20
    Allison
    Alexander-Arnold van Dijk Matip Robertson
    Fabinho
    Henderson Wijnaldum
    Salah Firmino Mane

    Undeniably all great teams, but who do you guys think is the best and why?

    Nike19
    #59167 Score: 0
    nine nine nine
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    962 pts

    United because they won an unprecedented and never been achieved since treble.

    #59170 Score: 0
    maverick1973maverick1973
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    615 pts

    I loved watching T.Henry play,and Arse deserved to win the CL,but winning the CL & the PL in the same season its something special.I know we won the treble that year,and it went down the wire,both the PL and the CL,which was won in the last 90 secs.So,lets wait and see what Liverpool do this season still.

    #59176 Score: 1
    srd79srd79
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    51 pts

    United because of the treble. Three big trophies in the same season beats going undefeated in the league or setting a point record.

    All great teams though.

    If Liverpool add the FA Cup and the CL to the PL they’ll win this season, they’ll be the best ever because they’ve pretty much strolled the league.

    • This reply was modified 6 months ago by srd79srd79.
    #59177 Score: 0
    sean the sailor
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    468 pts

    Liverpool still have to win the league though and shouldn’t even be mentioned beside those teams until they do

    No offence threeps mate. I’m just cautious. Hate anything like this when nothing’s won

    Our records count for nothing at minute

    #59185 Score: 0
    CriticalmaKCriticalmaK
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    Excluding Liverpool for a moment, I would have said City but looking at their team compared to 99 Utd… I think I’ve got to say Utd. This kinda flies in the face of my previously held opinion but that team just looks better. Winning the CL and the PL at the same time and what was the other, the FA Cup? The big 2 are 95% of that season really but to have the squad to manage to win the FA Cup without it costing you is worth mentioning.

    Now, to speak about Liverpool. I think we’re the only team to ever have an undefeated Calendar year? I heard it but don’t know if it’s true. It’s definitely worth something, however, we’re talking about single seasons here, so it’s value is maybe not worth too much. However, I would put up the fact that over the last year and a bit, we’ve appeared in more CL finals than we’ve lost PL matches, for consideration when rating this side.

    The thing is though, we’re only half way through this season. We almost certainly will not go through it undefeated. We might not get past Atletico in the CL, never-mind win it again. We might not win the PL, or the FA Cup. We are talked about as being on course for 110 points and that’s all well and good with half the season left…

    Now, if we do somehow make the CL final for the 3rd time in a row, taking it and the PL with a new record points tally, then regardless of the FA Cup, I’d say that this Liverpool side would then be the best in history but… I’m not harbouring this dream scenario, it won’t happen. I just want the PL, which is very realistic. Record points, invinvibles and another CL win are bonus round things this season.

    So, my answer is the 99 Utd.

    #59189 Score: 0
    PaganPagan
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    Forest went 12 months unbeaten, 42 league games without a loss in 77 78….Pagan

    #59194 Score: 0
    threepsthreeps
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    Sean I agree with you but all the talk in the media as I said is Liverpool are on their way to greatness, hence why they are included. I wanted to gauge what you lot think of this media talk and put it in context of the great teams we’ve seen. I’m not staying Liverpool are, will be or whatever, just starting a discussion.

    My opinion is the 99 utd team is probably the best but not for what they won as sometimes that can be influenced by luck, quality of opponent or whatever. I just think there’s no weakness in that team at all and are very well balanced.

    #59201 Score: 0
    CriticalmaKCriticalmaK
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    48 pts

    Was it a Calendar year Pagan? I mean, it doesn’t matter, 42 games is 42 games but maybe this was the grounds for exclusion. Cheers regardless for that bit of info.

    3ps, the media do love to whip up enthusiasm, almost as much as they love to tear things down. It’s fine to have us in there hypothetically though.

    As for that Utd team, it does look better than city’s alright. it doesn’t help that otamendi is considered to be absolutely rubbish now and Delph… well that was a weird one. He’s had a bit of a strange career to be included in a “greatest ever” team discussion.

    #59210 Score: 0
    sean the sailor
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    468 pts

    I really don’t mean to sound so negative threeps but I ignore everything the media says. I ignore all talk of records etc mate as nothing matters but winning the league

    I don’t think this team can compares to anyone until we actually see what they achieve. I understand why you posted the topic.

    #59213 Score: 0
    Mikus
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    220 pts

    Thing is, whilst Man Utd raised the bar in terms of professionalism and hard work after the more laid back culture of the 1980s, I think the bar has risen again in terms of the energy levels players today now have, particularly with regards to Liverpool and City.

    The relentlessness both sides have shown is unparalleled, which is why both are now breaking points records.

    #59214 Score: 0
    threepsthreeps
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    183 pts

    It’s fine mate, my thinking is pretty much the same as yours. But still, not bad teams eh?

    #59217 Score: 0
    PaganPagan
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    373 pts

    Mak, I think it ran from November 77 to December 78, not overly sure, but the local Forest fans bring it up on a regular basis….Pagan

    #59242 Score: 0
    maverick1973maverick1973
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    615 pts

    The thing about Utd 99 was that the domestic comps werent that full of major opposition,like it is today.There were only Arsenal and I remember Utd being extremely lucky,especially in the FA Cup @ the time.The 2008 situation was completely different,and winning the PL and the CL,beating a very good Chelsea team in the final after ET and pens was an achievement & a half.But if Liberoools win the PL this season going unbeaten,and wins the CL playing the type of football they are playing right now,then that will change things.

    #59254 Score: 1
    PaganPagan
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    373 pts

    I think we also have to recognise Man City’s unique domestic treble, it’s not as if they could rest players in the league games as Liverpool pushed them so hard…Pagan

    #59357 Score: 2
    Chelsea1967Chelsea1967
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    93 pts

    as we approach the quarter finals and the semi finals of the Champions League assuming Liverpool are still involved, there is a very good chance (with an unassailable lead in the title race) that Klopp could rest key players for the domestic matches and that may be their downfall in achieving an undefeated season.

    Nike19
    #59600 Score: 1
    MightyMoosMightyMoos
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    36 pts

    City is undoubtably the best footballing English club team of all time and I don’t even support them.

    #59603 Score: 0
    MightyMoosMightyMoos
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    36 pts

    Grealish is a big talent but obviously the better the team u play for the more he will flourish, Maddison is OK but not really special

    #59818 Score: 0
    maverick1973maverick1973
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    615 pts

    City is undoubtably the best footballing English club team of all time and I don’t even support them.When they win the treble of:CL,PL and FA Cup in one season,then maybe we can talk,sunshine.

    #59891 Score: 0
    Nike19Nike19
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    204 pts

    Man United’s Treble Winning Team, and the Team that Won the League 3 Times in a row.

    No other team in history has accomplished that.

    Man City come a close second.

    I was a Big Fan of Chelsea 2005 and 2006.

    And Arsenal Invincibles were something Special.

    Above all, all mentionable and Merited.

    From an LFC POV, has to be this current team under Klopp – would obviously love us to win The Premier League Title, and thereafter, Domestic Trophies.

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