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Nunez looks like a decent signing for your lot Sean. Not seen loads of him but he’s obviously scored a lot. I know we were looking at him but I can understand us backing out when Liverpool got involved. No way he’s coming to us to play Europa League. Much more pressing issues in Utd’s squad anyway than a striker so I’m not too fussed but I think he’ll be decent for you. Question marks over his first touch but he knows where the goal is.
Not sure about Frenkie, who seems to be the only realistic one we’re reportedly close to at the moment. He’s obviously much better than what we have but Barca don’t usually let good players go. The positive is that it’s someone who already knows Ten Hag’s demands which can rarely be a bad thing.
Not good seeing City and Liverpool being so decisive in the market while we’re doing nothing. Very reminiscent of Moyes’ first season where we chased Thiago and Fabregas all summer only to end up with Fellaini.
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Ye Ed I don’t even think utd were in for him as with ronaldo there are utd going to sign a striker mate? He will want to play every game and let’s be honest, he did what he was bright back for. Scored goals and was a huge success. Sorry for moving off topic, issue is anytime ronaldo is rested, there’s so much scrutiny from the media etc. be interesting to see what ten hagg does there.
De jong is no doubt a good player. Is he an out and out holding player? Great passer. I think utd need a really tough hard working holding player. Philips, rice, nidi etc but all absolutely ridiculous money.
Nunez is a risk like all signings but I think he has all the attributes to be a success but nothing is guaranteed. Be dad to see mane go. Not doing himself with any favours with his comments but best of luck to him. A beast of a player and still a good few years left in him
It’s the end of the front 3. Salah will go next summer and maybe bobby aswell. I’d like Neto or raphfina to replace Salah but that be next season and I think raphfina will move on this summer to Barca
How can Barca sign players when they are in so much debt?
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Yeah Barca situation is a weird one. Supposedly struggling to pay wages but they’re desperately trying to sign Lewandowski and Xavi wants Bernardo Silva. Surely, now is the time for them to sell their valuable players and play the kids until their future looks a bit brighter. Sounds like they haven’t learnt a thing. No doubt they’ll try to get Messi back soon also.
Yeah true about Ronaldo Sean. Nobody is displacing him so it’s difficult finding a striker willing to be backup, albeit whoever comes in is pretty much guaranteed to be the main man in a season’s time. Still gutted about Greenwood tbh. He was a massive asset for us and has just thrown his career away. Him and Cavani going as well as this likely being Ronaldo’s last season leaves us very short.
De Jong isn’t really a holder no Sean. My understanding is that he prefers to play that deep-lying playmaker role though, which he does with the Netherlands and he did with Ajax. Barca don’t really play him there though as that is Busquet’s position. I agree with you that we need a traditional holding midfielder as well as De Jong. Lost so many midfielders this summer already in Pogba, Matic, Mata, Lingard. Not that any of them were great for us any longer (or ever in some cases) but it’s the depth we’ve now lost.
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I see similarities to our team in the late 80s. Kenny brought in players be in a defender or an attacking player, so if one was coming to the end of his career, another would already be ready to step in.
Positive and an encouraging start, albeit signature and unveil. It is an enormous amount of money (re Nunez), so I can only assume FSG demanding more sales. Mane’s asking price will upper and we won’t budge till we get what we want. They’ll be smaller sales likely in Taki and Oxlaid.
Firmino was signed for 29 mill back in 2015. It’s been a testament he’s played out this long, so naturally, his time will come. I don’t personally want any complications on Salah and I rather he just sees his contract out and leaves next summer. As long as we have the financial clout and the pulling power and that there’s talent out there, then Klopp should be looking to replant the seeds.
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I just hope we’re not buying Nunez on the basis of his performances against us in the CL. I think we bought Minamino on his performances against us but he only cost buttons. I can only suspect we’ve been tracking him for a while. As Ed alludes to, I’d have him down as more of a rough diamond than an established star yet. OK, that’s what the club tends to do but the money is a lot more than what we’d normally pay for an unfinished article. I think the club needs more creative Firmino type players. We’ll see how quickly Carvalho can get in the side. Can’t see Thiago playing a full season so cover needed there too.
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Yeah, I think that’s why we won’t be in a hurry to sell Naby. We need him anyway. Tiago can’t play a full season. More to the point, for me, we need to think about a new powerhouse of a midfielder who isn’t afraid to either burst into the box or take shots of 25+ yards. Henderson’s better suited right-hand side. Fabinho is good in this position, but it’s too much to ask from a just one player who’s likely to be again in more than 2 Competitions.
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When looking back at past transfers it’s important to take into account the inflation of the transfer market, but regardless, City have snapped up some serious bargains.
£54m seemed like quite a lot for Kevin De Bruyne back in 2015, even if he did enjoy an incredible 2014/15 season at Wolfsburg. But if City were to go out and buy a midfielder of his quality today, they’d do well to find someone for less than £100m. That no other major clubs chased the Belgian’s signature at the time shows City know a good deal when they see one.
A year later Pep Guardiola made Ilkay Gundogan the first signing of his City tenure, with the Blues paying Borussia Dortmund just £21m for the German midfielder. In the six years since, the 31-year-old has made over 250 appearances for the club, directly contributed to over 80 goals and has won four Premier League titles. While Gundogan’s early years at City were plagued by serious injury, his contribution still resembles incredible value for money.
Gabriel Jesus is another bargain buy that has repaid every penny of the initial £27m City invested in him. After arriving from Palmeiras in January 2017 Jesus adapted much more quickly to Premier League football than many South Americans do, although he has never truly been able to become City’s first-choice striker.
Signing Bernardo Silva for £43m was a masterstroke. Like De Bruyne, a player of his quality today would cost far more than that – should Barcelona step up their efforts to prise Bernardo away from the Etihad, the latest reports suggest that City would accept nothing less than €80m (£68m).
The best bargain in recent Premier League history has to be Oleksandr Zinchenko. Signed for just £1.7m in 2016, the Ukrainian was never intended to be a City regular, but a mixture of incredible talent and hard work has seen him play a selfless role as City’s backup left-back in recent years.When Haaland is officially unveiled as a City player, he will become the latest in a string of clever deals. While the wages and agent fees involved in his deal have been well-publicised, the bottom line is that City have paid a transfer fee of just £51m. For the best young striker in the world, that is incredible.
City may spend a lot of money, but unlike some of their rivals, they spend it wisely rather than lumping it all on one marquee signing. Provided he is a success, Haaland will be further proof of that.
From Manchester Evening News
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City have picked up some good players under the radar Adlab, but as for Haaland, there are very few clubs who could afford his wages. What you could argue was that missing out on Kane the season before was a huge blessing in disguise which saved their money, assuming Haaland explodes, which is hard not to see given his record at both club and international levels. But both City and Liverpool are completely indebted to their managers, who both have a huge pull and without which neither team could do such good transfer business.
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Pep and Klopp improve players. That’s their biggest asset.
Ye mikuis, the athletic are reporting that we scouted Nunez over the last 18 months. We will see. As Ed says his 1st touch is a lot to be desired and he has a lot to improve on. Still he has the attributes to succeed . Time will tell
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Any signing is a risk look at Torres.😊
Last season was Nunez best season for goals his previous goal scoring record was pretty average but Klopp doesn’t make too many mistakes.
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To be fair Adlab Haaland was a bargain due to his buy out clause seemingly he has a £128m buy out clause in his City contract that can be activated in 2 years time. No fly’s on him.😊
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Haaland is completely different to what City have had in the past and to be honest I’m not sure how he’s going to fit in. He plays on the shoulder of the last defender with the sole purpose of getting onto the end of something to score. He rarely gets involved in build up play. His touch and passing ability are not the standard you’d expect from a Pep player. He is however a lethal finisher with superb off the ball movement.
The situation is similar to Liverpool and Nunez and I tried to discuss on the other site why I have my reservations. I don’t know as much about Nunez as Haaland but I’m sure he played as a no 9 high up the pitch with Ramos doing the link up play behind him. A traditional no 9 in a Klopp 433 gives far too large a gap between him and the midfield.
Both situations will cause intrigue and questions. Does the player adapt to the team or the team adapt to the player? Pep and Klopp are going a little into the unknown.
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Anyone know what’s happened to Greenwood, I read reports that United have released him but if his still contracted how’s that possible? Or is it the usual false media reports.!
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Rover, he’s suspended until the court case. Some rumours emerged of him having been found innocent but I find it highly unlikely. I can’t see a way back for him. I guess he’ll have to go and play in another country away from the media scrutiny in the UK.
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threes, agree with much of what you say but in my view, the player has to adapt to the team, I am sure Pep and Jurgen will not have it any other way, Haaland, instil is not much different to our last “9” s. Auger, Dzeko, Tevez who all played “on the shoulder , so to speak. My only reservation is he will be smart enough to match City style and creation of chances, which he is there to finish just like any other team member who finds himself in the spot to score. That is what the City style is about, creating the chances. Still we are criticised for not scoring enough!!!! Football punditry has to be the lowest form of football knowledge!!!
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Ed, juSt like Mendy….a price has to be paid for stupidity and arrogance
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Not sure I’d agree Brian, Aguero and Tevez would come deep and link play. Haaland doesn’t do that so effectively your build up play is with one less man. Those two also had bags of skill which meant they could easily operate in tight spaces. Against low block, lesser quality teams which for City is about 95% of Worlds footbal it probably isn’t an issue and now they will have someone whose sole purpose is to finish off the move. Dzeko was before Pep wasn’t he? But still he could come deep and hold the ball up well.
I don’t mean the player forces these managers to change, I mean is buying them a signal of change. Pep and Klopp are not stupid, they won’t just buy someone for the sake of it without having a plan for them. Is that to change the player or is it they are looking for something different that this player can provide?
Klopp was always a 4231 manager at Dortmund with a no 9 up top like Auba or Lewandowski, with players behind them like Kagawa, Götze or that ex Man utd Armenian player. (Why did Dortmund have players with such difficult to spell names!). His time so far at Liverpool has been almost exclusively 433 and to obvious success. Will the Nunez signing be a change in that?
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Threeps, jota is much different to bobby so did we change when jota went as our number 9?
Jota didn’t drop as deep as Bobby and it didn’t really upset or change things drastically?
City create so many chances that Haaland will have a field day
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Jota still moved about a lot but yes it did affect our play. His link up is poor and it showed, it was like playing with 10 men. He had a purple patch then went ineffective to the point I don’t think he is good enough for an elite team. There is a reason he wasn’t trusted when everyone else is fit.
Yes Haaland will get a lot of goals but you’re missing my point. Pep has all his players working very hard in the build up and that is not his game at all. So what will change?
Everyone thought Grealish would be a superb signing but his style differed to what Pep told him to do and he suffered. Whether he comes good or not for City remains to be seen.
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Funnily enough, remember when we bought Aspas, a striker, to try and fit into a 433 and it was a disaster? He career both pre and post Liverpool was great because he played up top again. There does seem to be a pattern with this. Neither Minamino nor Origi were good enough in a 433 and always looked better up top. Naivety that you can change players?
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