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  • #154556
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      Maguire
      Bailly
      Lindelof
      Jones
      Smalling
      Rojo
      Taunzebe

      I’d argue only max 2 of those could claim to actually be CBs Nine ?

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      #154559
      nine nine nine
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        I think all three of United, Chelsea and Arsenal might have a similar problem there Ed albeit Chelsea haven’t got quite as many.?

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        #154561
        sean the sailor
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          Ed, on his day and fully fit, Bailey is an excellent player in my opinion

          He’s just never fully fit. He can’t get a run of games to get fully fit or stay fit

          I’d rate a fully fit Bailly who was performing well better then maguire

          Sorry it seems like I’m akways bashing maguire but just look at him on Sunday. What was he at for the 1st goal? Much bigger issues then him at the bsck and not fully to blame for the goals but it was poor at the front post and not looking at the ball. I just don’t get him at all
          Maybe he needs someone like kulbailu beside him.

          Bailey first came to my intention when Villarreal beat us 1-0 in 2016.he was a beast that day. He fast, strong, can tackle and not to bad in the air. He’s just injured to much

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          #154565
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            Yeah I rate Bailly as well Sean. Not getting into a Maguire debate again ?. I really rate Tuanzebe too but, like Bailly, he’s barely been able to play because of injuries. The less said about the others the better. Smalling, to be fair, is a very good defender too.

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            #154574
            sean the sailor
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              Ye fair enough Ed . Utd winning, Sancho signing and maguire are not going to be mentioned by me for a while ?

              Always rated Smalling aswell . I’d have him over lindolf

              Think we agree on jones. Really looked very good in 2011 but had really gone backwards. His confidence is shot

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              #154690
              steveosnakeeye
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                Not sure of bailey… like some due time injuries will just be one of those that never lived up to his potential… coming back from injury as a defender means you get less chance to ease in and can look bad
                I’d look elsewhere myself
                Smallish easily best of a bad bunch but the one sent away… odd

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                #154699
                Brian blue
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                  Here is me thinking it was only City with a CB problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  #154707
                  Mikus LFC
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                    Is all this because the game has changed to more attack minded philosophies with bringing and passing it out from the back with less defined positions and more interchangeable options? All of the top clubs bar Liverpool have had problems defensively. Is it becoming a lost art?

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                    #154713
                    Brian blue
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                      Mikus……YES

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                      #154722
                      sean the sailor
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                        The passing out from the back is not good for the heart ?

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                        #154806
                        steveosnakeeye
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                          Especially when my little do it they are so bad and leads directly to so many goal but you even see the smaller clubs like Norwich do it and it did for them

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                          #154816
                          Mikus LFC
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                            And interesting Steveo that clubs aren’t turning to managers like Big Sam anymore to get them out of trouble. They’re seemingly happy to go down so long as they play the ‘right way’.

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                            #154883
                            Brian blue
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                              Room for many styles in football, it is just the way they are executed that matters. Managers should only play within capability of players he has or suffer the consequences, then he becomes the fall guy

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                              #155693
                              steveosnakeeye
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                                Reinier: Borussia Dortmund sign Real Madrid’s Brazilian forward on loan For 2 years

                                With the wealth of attacking talent Dortmund have already could this be paving the way for a sale of sancho?

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                                #155703
                                Brian blue
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                                  Steve..probably picked him up cheap and add to squad The Sancho saga will go an a little more Dortmund probably do not need the money…yet but they will hold out for there price

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                                  #155752
                                  steveosnakeeye
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                                    Loan deals are about as cheap as they come Brian
                                    Very astute club Dortmund

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                                    #155856
                                    Brian blue
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                                      Steve…I think the way Dortmund look at it is, they paid 8 million to City, they improved the player so now theywant a clear 100 million, so that is 108 million plus maybe 2 million for expenses.!!! They are in no hurry

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                                      #155866
                                      steveosnakeeye
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                                        And why should they
                                        Fantastic asset that they developed and why young players want to go to them

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                                        #155909
                                        steveosnakeeye
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                                          Will hijack this thread momentarily

                                          This made me laugh and shake my head at the same time

                                          Been to those cliffs
                                          Scary on a sunny day!!!

                                          https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/storm-ellen-crazy-photo-shows-22545668.amp

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                                          #155933
                                          Brian blue
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                                            My son lives near the West Coast in Fermanagh and his house is exposed so Hope he and family OK

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