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1st November 2023 at 3:24 pm #210481
15 million apparently in payment should ETH’s contract be terminated. Can you really classify Glazers as Businessmen?!
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2nd November 2023 at 7:09 am #210491Absolutely abject performance last night. Not surprised anymore. Not sure the manager helps. Should play two holding players to stay more compact. Weβre not scoring goals, so need to stay compact at the back and stop the breakaway goals. To many lazy runners, no idea why Dalot lets players run past him when facing his own goal. Casemiro and Amrabat have to start. Drop Anthony who really does offer nothing.
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2nd November 2023 at 7:11 am #210492Torn about ETH, does look out of his depth and is too stubborn, however the players have to step up and work hard. We only start to play when a goal down and then we leave bigger gaps to exploit.
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2nd November 2023 at 7:37 am #210493Ye Alfie , old tarford just seems so big and open for the opposition.The first goal the lad just skips through.
Have to say Howe has surprised me. Newcastje work so hard off the ball .he has them playing sone good stuff and they are a very good side.
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2nd November 2023 at 8:19 am #210494The goals were ridiculous. Started well but didn’t create chances and then played schoolboy individual stuff.
Garnacho should have played ReguilΓ³n in, but didn’t and was then far too easily dispossed. I genuinely think that I could have taken the ball off of Garnacho there as the RB was so far on top of him and didn’t even flinch when ReguilΓ³n went on teh overlap. Then Mount should have taken a booking, but let the RB run into all of that space.
Dalot decides he is not going to track back, why would he?, he is only the RB after all. Then second half we start well but get dispossed in the middle, might have been given as a foul, might not, and they score an easy third.
He needs to make us hard to play against, and offer something going forward, but Rashford is out of form and Anthony isn’t a professional footballer. Feel for Hojlund, big lad, strong and quick and we won’t cross the ball to him or look to play him in either.
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2nd November 2023 at 8:59 am #210495I mentioned in a previous post that against City RB was constantly exposed by Grealish and Bernardo. Last night Newcastle did the same leading to goals.
This is not a dig but you’d have thought the manager would have spotted this. But what do I know?
Also there’s been a lot of comment on what United’s style is. I don’t watch many United games in full but the approach to the City and Newcastle games was totally different. OK on a magnetic board but are the players capable of carrying out the manager’s tactics jf they change game to game?_____________________________
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2nd November 2023 at 1:20 pm #210496The issues at utd are so much bigger then the manager. There is something rotten sll through the club at the minute. Good players playing bad, signing good players over the years who for whatever reason have failed.
Reminds me so much of Liverpool for decades.I wouldnβt sack the manager.heβs making some bizarre decisions and comments but Utd fans were optimistic 3 months ago now itβs frustration. You canβt just start all over again after 18 months.
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2nd November 2023 at 2:33 pm #210497I don’t think Man Utd were as good as people think last season. Bizarrely the one player who helped paper over the cracks last season was De Gea, and he was offloaded in the summer after going out of contract. Man Utd need a top man manager, even as an interim, even if that manager isn’t top level. They need someone to get them enjoying their football again. I can’t see how that happens under the present management.
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2nd November 2023 at 2:34 pm #210498Too many individuals, not enough team players.
Some players look like they have stopped playing for the manager.
A scattergun transfer approach. Buying players past their best, buying players who didn’t want to be at the club, but went for the money, buying unestablished players who needed the right structure to develop.
Off the pitch, no structure or strategy in place. An out of date training complex, a stadium falling apart. Too many people given positions and are clearly out of depth.
Yet the same mistakes are being made over again.
The club is in a big mess and are a shambles. It seems like the owner are relying on facilities and system which made Ferguson successful, yet are too naive to know during Ferguson’s tenure, the club evolved on and off the pitch, along with the owners not realising Ferguson never would have bought 80% of the transfers the club have made since he left. Why would he buy Fellaini and Mata(2 number 10s) when he already had Rooney.
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2nd November 2023 at 2:46 pm #210499Mikus-
Do you mean someone like Ole or Ragnick?
Ten Hag Ajax side scored 100+ goals 3/4 seasons when he was in charge. He is known for playing good football.
The same pattern has happened since Ferguson retired. Like Keane said leopards never changes its spots. They get Klopp or Pep in, both would be thrown under the bus too.
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2nd November 2023 at 3:04 pm #210500I mean a top man manager CM, someone who can instil a spirit in the team and someone whom the players love playing under first and foremost. Rather than pursuing this pipe dream of coaching total football.
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2nd November 2023 at 3:53 pm #210501Cm, to be honest I donβt Klopp or pep would stand for any of this bollix. Look what Klopp did with sahko who was by loved by lfc fans.
Who are the toxic lads in the dressing room who are leaking stories ? Also I doubt either would take the job if they were guaranteed certain conditionsPep stands for no shite. Utd job is 100 times bigger then Ajax. He said he canβt play that kind of football yet nearly all the players he had bought have worked under him. I donβt get it mate.
I think they need to stick with him as itβs just constant rinse and repeat. If heβs this great coach that utd fans say he is then he turns this around as he has signed the players he wants.
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2nd November 2023 at 6:04 pm #210503Sean Absolutely right that the United job is just so much bigger than Ajax.
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2nd November 2023 at 6:06 pm #210504They need someone like Ancellotti
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2nd November 2023 at 7:31 pm #210505United’s managers win percentage post Ferguson –
Ten Hag – 65.6%
Mourinho – 58%
Ole – 54%
Moyes – 52.98%
LVG – 52.43%
Rangnick – 38%_____________________________
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2nd November 2023 at 7:35 pm #210506Sean-
The likes of Pogba, Lingard, Rashford and Sancho were known to be disruptive or lack courtesy when United lost.
Rooney said when United suffered an embarrassing defeat, himself and Carrick walked in to the changing room the day after for training and Lingard and Pogba were dancing.
With Sancho disciplinary problems, he is clearly having an influence on certain individuals.
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3rd November 2023 at 9:40 am #210510Recommended watch:
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4th November 2023 at 12:16 pm #210516Ye no disagreeing cm. Pogba was toxic.
Sancho was disruptive at dortmund aswell. Ten hagg certainly is not helping himself but utd just cannot sack him. Stick with him
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5th November 2023 at 11:57 am #210564What does irk me a little is what I am not seeing during actual live matches; that is the communication and get together from Steve McClaren. He has bundles of experience and of course, he was former Man United. Whether or not this is happening I don’t know with Ten Hag, but just feel Ten Hag looks like a lone ranger.
Rightly so he shouldn’t hold back when it comes to putting players in line and the last resort being to sell them.
Yep, Klopp did exactly that with Sakho. No player should be bigger than the club and ones disrupting the dressing room and the team need to go.
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5th November 2023 at 1:30 pm #210565Nike. Agreed.Look what Pep did to Cancelo. Out the door straight away however good a player he is. That doesn’t compensate for the disruption caused by a difficult player
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