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  • #165734 Score: 3
    Mikus
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    Have to say I’ve got quite into this new series as I think it’s that bit more interesting to see what happens when a new manager comes in, particularly Jose Mourinho. I think you can see straight away that it’s the mentality of the club that Mourinho is changing which is why I still very much rate him because that’s where the difference lies between the club winning something and not winning something. Also I found the few pieces with Levy quite interesting – he’s clearly strong on the business side of things as you’d expect but I thought on football matters he seemed rather lost and weak in the short bits you see of him. And I sensed Jose was giving him a few home truths he needed to hear and shake the club up a bit to start being successful by being more ruthless and less nice on the pitch. Yes to some extent it’s obviously going to try and put a positive spin on everything but it’s still quite insightful nonetheless on all the details like man management and team selection. Had Kane not got injured you’d expect Spurs to have been much closer to top 4 last season and obviously Mourinho knew it when he got the injury.

    Shiney
    #165737 Score: 0
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    If only I could bring myself to watch it…. the most hated man at the most hated club? 😁 not on my watch !!!

    #165741 Score: 0
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    Give over Steve, you’d have been all over Jose if, as rumoured, he had gone to Arsenal! In fact you and many other Arsenal fans were talking him up as Arsenal manager here 😁 https://www.teamtalk.com/your-say/topic/mourinho-7 He’s the biggest prat in the world until he’s your manager. Very much the Luis Suarez of the manager world.

    I’ve very much enjoyed it so far. You can see the challenge Jose has on his hands trying to turn this bunch of serial underachievers and “nice guys” into winners and b****tards. Whether he succeeds or not is as much about how willing the club and players are to change as it is about his methods and ability. For me, his ability hasn’t changed at all. As Mikus has alluded to previously, players have very much changed what type of management/manager they respond to. The iron fist is becoming less effective in a world where footballers are rich beyond their wildest dreams at the age of 20. Rightly or wrongly, Jose is far too stubborn to change his man management style, which is likely to ultimately be his downfall.

    Looking forward to watching the rest!

    #165743 Score: 1
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    Pfff don’t use facts to back up your arguments 🤣🤣

    Still maintain I hate him but as has been alluded to thought he MIGHT just give us some spine and a way to defend …. we all support our clubs and managers I’d have hated it but supported him

    Luckily we didn’t get him!!

    Prefer arteta he is slowly doing what we need as I much nicer with awesome Lego hair 😁

    #165745 Score: 1
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    Keymaster
    574 pts

    He does have great hair Steve!

    steveosnakeeye
    #165767 Score: 0
    ShineyShiney
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    So far so good and I’ve enjoyed the first 3 episodes, still think he’s the wrong manager for Spurs but if he improves them as a team I’ll be happy.It was tough watching the bits about Poch though.

    #165769 Score: 0
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    Did they do a previous one with poch ? Be great if they did you could get a real view of differing styles and what works etc
    Guess there isn’t tho? 🤣

    #165798 Score: 0
    ShineyShiney
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    Steve, Poch’s part was up to the CL final and the terrible start to the following season when Levy sacked him .I can see him coming back to Spurs in a few years time maybe sooner if Jose and Baldy fall out.

    #165839 Score: 1
    Surrey Blue
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    We’ve had many football ‘documentaries’ over the years and in my opinion, if the first three episodes of the latest effort (on Spurs) is anything to go by, it’s going to be very much like the others – it’s a bit better than watching paint dry but only just. We learnt, for instance, that Jose doesn’t like to lose but likes to win, Son was really cheesed off after being sent off and Toby Alderweireld was chuffed to bits on extending his contract until 2023 for an extremely large amount of money. Perhaps it’s because footballers/managers are (in essence) no more or less interesting than anybody else that can lead to disappointment. After all, despite the ludicrous levels of hype surrounding the game, about 90% of time spent watching a ‘top level’ football match – with the occasional exception – is fairly tedious, so why should a film about a football club be any better? Not even watching Take the Ball Pass the Ball (about FCB) shortly after the latest episode of the Spurs series could raise the mood, so I’m obviously missing something when it comes to this type of film. I’d recommend watching Mortimer and Whitehouse on fishing instead, at least it has a few laughs…

    steveosnakeeye
    #165862 Score: 0
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    As this is a spuds documentary, shouldn’t it be called …..

    Nothing or Nothing:Spurs & Mourinho

    #165922 Score: 2
    ShineyShiney
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    Steveo. maybe Arsenal should do one, “Once a cannon now a pop-gun “

    steveosnakeeye
    #166160 Score: 1
    Chelsea1967Chelsea1967
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    All or nothing. Not a great start Spurs 0 Everton 1. Everton the sort of side that would probably benefit from playing away matches with zero crowd pressure. You wonder what effect that has in influencing performance and subsequent results moving forwards in respect of both sides in a match. I would think that whilst it is the same for all sides through a home and away season, the benefit lies more with the underdog sides. Maybe I’m talking a load of gibberish but the Everton win suggests otherwise. Would Everton beat Spurs on their home ground with a full house of mainly Spurs support? I say most probably not.

    #166161 Score: 1
    sean the sailor
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    Chelsea totally agree mate

    The players aren’t really even celebrating now when they score as no fans to run to

    It’s such a pity and it will really effect some teams

    Commentators aren’t even excited when a goal goes in

    It really is a dampener but it’s great to be bsck discussing games

    Adlab
    #166162 Score: 0
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    335 pts

    I’m quite liking it for the most part

    Nice to see neymar get a red, 5 reds in the game and PSG have lost both opening games 😁

    CL hangover! Love it

    #166173 Score: 0
    MightyMoosMightyMoos
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    43 pts

    What an idiot

    #166201 Score: 0
    Nike19Nike19
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    235 pts

    I’ve seen a few snippets on You Tube of this Documentary and I really found the behind the scenes footage fascinating. I found the same with Man City and Pep. It’s through Amazon.

    I still can’t get my head around the way Son was spoken too and treated by Lloris. Son’s one of the most conscientious of professionals on the circuit with a really great attitude and work ethic.

    #166202 Score: 0
    Brian blue
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    Guys, drawing conclusions from one game is more than a little premature. Look at it again after 10 games and they will come around quick enough this season. I have just noted City will play 5 games in 13 days i think, no doubt other teams will be fixture constipated as well. We need somebody better at working out these games

    #166289 Score: 0
    Nike19Nike19
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    235 pts

    Things could change for the Better me thinks with Bale coming in.

    #166292 Score: 0
    steveosnakeeyesteveosnakeeye
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    335 pts

    Was bale and Maureen at RM at the same period? If so how did they get on? Is this his buy or levys?

    #166297 Score: 0
    sean the sailor
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    They were not stevo but jose wanted to sign him at real

    This is a jose signing and a great one for the club

    Takes spurs up a level if he can stay fully fit

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