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  • #46035
    sean the sailor
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      I think Liverpool could have bought someone who can help out with the front 3. Someone young and up coming who was willing to learn the trade and who didn’t expect to play to many games.

      Also we need left back cover

      Pepe would not have played much. When our front 3 are fit. They play as high lighted by the number of games they have played over the last few seasons.

      I agree we are a bit short. Not to disappointed we didn’t buy anyone as it’s a strong squad

      Lucky is spot on. We are not going to get get 97 points.

      I’m just enjoying it all.

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      #46037
      steveosnakeeye
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        hell of a lot to enjoy Sean, i wouldnt mind a tenth of it at the moment for my lot!

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        #46038
        Luckydestiny
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          I understand mate, just feel they would have if they could have. Dont agree that not stregthening = weakening, its not logical, and due to the average age of squad, their greater level of experience now and a coach who clearly improves players, this team imo is getting better. I think once fully fit they will be, but that doesnt mean they will improve on 97 points. city may not do that themselves.

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          #46039
          sean the sailor
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            I don’t agree we are one or two injuries away from being average. We managed without firmino and Salah againest Barcelona. We managed without firmino at the end of last season

            I agree with Stevo that is two front 3 for injured for a few months we would be in trouble but we wouldn’t be average.

            Ox played sat in his preferred role and looked good. Keita has to come back. Origi is doing well. Shaqiri is there. Brewster is set for a role so klopp says

            Every Liverpool fan fully supports what klopp does.

            We should have bought two players. Cities squad is on another level. They are fully expected to win the league

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            #46045
            threeps
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              If City are on another level then it is only a tiny little 1 point size step away from Liverpool.

              I agree with Sean that if we lose 2 of our front 3 we are considerably weaker, but I think you could say that about any team, even City. Lose Aguero and Sterling and what they stick in Jesus and Marhez, that’s a big drop despite how much they cost.

              We maybe should of bought a young up and coming player for the LB position but maybe Klopp thinks we already have that in Larouci. Klopp has a reputation of developing what he already has rather than buying someone new.

              LD is right in my opinion, just because you don’t “strengthen” doesn’t mean you are weaker. The team is older, 1 year more developed in Klopp’s ways, they keep the team unity that comes when successful.

              The most important thing for Liverpool was to keep their main players and they did that. I really don’t understand the fuss that is made because we didn’t buy anyone. Sometimes people just want to buy for the sake of buying and better if it’s a nice expensive signing, who cares how he will fit in the team!

              Arsenal and Utd are totally different, they are playing catch up, and it’s a big gap! The season will dictate if they bought wisely or not. The gap may be smaller this season but doubt it will be small enough to worry last season’s top two.

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              #46047
              sean the sailor
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                Good post threeps

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                #46049
                Luckydestiny
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                  to put it this way, if somone cooks you a perfect steak do you really care if they are picky about the veg they choose/dont choose to serve on the side? just tuck in and enjoy pool fans, and stevo you get back to your big mac 🙂

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                  #46051
                  sean the sailor
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                    Threeps cities squad is much better in midfield and attacking options, full back aswell

                    They play 4-1-4-1

                    They have 4 players who can play in the middle who are top class.

                    Options for out the wide.Kdb was out for the whole season and wast missed. Imagine mane or Salah out for us for the season

                    They have one of the best squads in Europe and that’s why they won 3 cups

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                    #46052
                    steveosnakeeye
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                      Threeps, thats exactly the point, of all course all teams are weaker when one or more of the 1st 11 are injured, its the quality of the replacements that im talking about….and im really only saying it as they have all played so many games with very little break at all for sonlong going back to before the world cup

                      when you were playinig catch up it was hard to attract the right players and took time and Klopp is amazing and has a good record but he has his duds too like all managers, dont get me wrong id trust him and take him no worries but when your star has risen and you are a top top team, it would seem the best and most prudent time to invest in key areas…

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                      #46053
                      Luckydestiny
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                        sean, no other team has the transfer budget city have needed to assemble that squad nor the wage budget to maintain it. That pool were only a point behind is a testament to pools recruitment and a great coach. pool cant afford to pay subs 200k/week and so can never have the same options off the bench as city with mahrez, sane etc.

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                        #46054
                        sean the sailor
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                          Ye I totally agree lucky.

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                          #46055
                          threeps
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                            Sean, that is no relevance. What if Henderson went the whole season injured, could we cover him? Most probably yes. Us like them have a lot of centre midfield players, it’s a position easier to rotate and keep good squad depth. But if they lost Aguero and play Jesus then the drop in quality is like us losing Firmino and playing Origi. They even went through a stage of playing Delph at full back recently (2 seasons ago was it?).

                            Yes they have one of the best squads, and yes that’s why they won 3 cups. So do Liverpool, that’s why we won one cup (the biggest).

                            Steveo, where would Liverpool invest? Who would improve the team and realistically come? I’ve asked this on that other forum and don’t think I got a sensible answer!

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                            #46056
                            nine nine nine
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                              I think Pepe would have been a very good buy for most of the top PL Clubs.

                              Well done to Arsenal for getting him.

                              Would have loved to see him at Chelsea but once everyone is fit we are fairly well covered in that area. Surprised United didn’t go for him he seemed to fit their DNA perfectly. Good to see these type of players in the PL.

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                              #46058
                              Mikus LFC
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                                Whilst there is certainly something to be said for Klopp’s “less is more” approach and being patient in waiting for the right player to be identified (which obviously helps to create a very cohesive team), it’s still vital that the squad becomes robust enough to deal with any injuries and/or departures. And that’s still a concern with our transfer strategy.

                                Take the no.2 goalkeeper situation – this is still a very important position at the club – as Liverpool have seen recently. Rather than be proactive and really sort it out, the club got caught out when Mignolet decided to leave a week before the season and the club were then scrambling to find a new no.2 just days before the new season – and had to bring in a free agent. There was something very amateurish about that that I don’t think you’d have seen at the likes of Chelsea or City. My worry, and it is only a worry at the moment, is that Klopp is getting too powerful at the club with regards to transfers in a way that other managers aren’t. Klopp will leave one day. It’s vital he doesn’t take the success with him.

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                                #46059
                                threeps
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                                  How do you know they were scrambling? What’s wrong with a free agent? Don’t see your point sorry. I think they had identified Adrian a while ago as there was doubts about Mignolet for a long time. Teams always have back up plans well scouted. If Salah decides to up and leave I’m pretty sure a replacement would be found pretty sharpish.

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                                  #46062
                                  Mikus LFC
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                                    Nothing wrong with a free agent, but had they identified Adrian a while ago, why didn’t they act then? Adrian could easily have signed for another club before we came in for him. That not a tad risky just days before the new season?

                                    Regards a Salah replacement, given how long it can take for Klopp to settle in players, do you not think it wiser to bed them in sooner rather than later?

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                                    #46063
                                    nine nine nine
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                                      How has a Josh Kroenke/Arsenal thread swung around into becoming a Liverpool debate????

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                                      #46064
                                      threeps
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                                        They didn’t act then because Mignolet hadn’t left. As soon as he did they acted. If he decided to stay then we would have two back up keepers which is a bit unnecessary.

                                        A Salah, or Mane, or VvD or whoever replacement are always being looked at. All top teams do it. And if one leaves then yeah they will have a list of players already scouted to act on. But they are not going to buy say Mbappe now just because Salah has flirted a little with Madrid and there’s a fear he may be off next season. That’s unfeasible.

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                                        #46065
                                        threeps
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                                          Sorry Nine!

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                                          #46067
                                          Mikus LFC
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                                            Mignolet has clearly been unhappy for sometime. Rather than deal with that proactively, they waited until he left a week before the new season and were lucky Adrian was available, who, being a free agent, was able to sign up very quickly.

                                            Never mentioned we should sign someone of the order and cost of Mbappe. Be nice if we could mind.

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