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    nine nine nine
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      Chelsea have announced the signing of Benoit Badiashile with the centre-back arriving in a Β£35m deal from Monaco after signing a 7-and-a-half-year contract.

      Less than a £5m pa spend re FFP.😊

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      #202309
      Mikus LFC
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        Some long contracts being offered now. Is part of this to now help stay within FFP?

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        #202310
        Chucky McChuckface
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          Long (and even longer contracts) are common in baseball/basketball… protects the clubs investment longer (and in our case this side of the pond, also helps navigate FFP).

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          #202312
          Luckydestiny
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            Yeah that exactly what it’s about mikus, as well as locking the player down it allows a longer period for the fee to be amortised over. From accounting point of view it makes sense even without FFP I suppose but it certainly will help meet FFP criteria (which is over rolling 3 years) to have fees spread over 6 plus years.

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            #202683
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              Chelsea fans, thoughts on Felix? I find it a bit strange to be honest. The only reason I can see that they would pay the Β£15mil it will cost for him for half a season is that it’s a last throw of the dice for a CL spot. Otherwise, I’m left wondering what the point is. As there’s no buy option, it’s not a “try before you buy” scenario. Half a good season there and he’s going to either:

              1. Cost a lot of money to buy (seeing as he just renewed) or
              2. He’s going to have his pick of CL clubs if he doesn’t want to go back to Atletico

              If it’s a last throw of the dice for a CL spot, I get it. The fee could be paid back by future CL earnings and it becomes justified. That looks a stretch though currently and makes it a huge gamble. A gamble that arguably doesn’t fill the weakness in the squad which is scoring goals.

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              #202684
              Luckydestiny
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                Yeah it’s a surprise Ed, due to how similar he is in profile to most of our forward players especially havertz its hard to justify the expense but to he honest mount, havertz, ziyech, pulisic etc while all similar to felix in terms of preferred role and position,have all been very poor, and so this is trying to improve that problem not necessarily the goal scorer problem.

                15m I presume is fee and wages which for half a season is extortionate, but it’s only the fee I have issue with, the term of the loan and the player himself I have no issue with to be honest, I could do with a bleeding break from havertz!

                We obviously need goals but you need chances before you get goals, havertz and mount are not quick enough to see the whole picture in between the lines and they are killing us in transition.

                We have so many problem’s I personally don’t care about the order in which we try to solve them, but again not too impressed with the agreed loan fee.

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                #202685
                nine nine nine
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                  CL qualification has gone imo but Felix’s creativity could lift Chelsea up the PL.

                  All we need is a 30 goal a season striker alongside him now.😊

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                  #202686
                  Adlab
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                    Mixed feelings about Felix. Can be brilliant and sometimes completely anonymous. But based on what I have seen from Chelsea in the last week I think he would be a useful addition but a very expensive one.

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                    #202689
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                      I think he’ll be decent. I just wonder what the point is in getting an expensive stop gap when there is little to gain from it beyond a slightly higher league position, assuming they indeed have given up on a CL place. Wouldn’t promoting a young striker be more beneficial as there’s a potential benefit in the longer term, unlike the Felix deal?

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                      #202690
                      Luckydestiny
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                        Ed, a lot of Chelsea fans have no faith on Potter and are making it known, the media has, by overwhelming majority, already decided he is doomed. Only bring it up because the only way to stop it getting very nasty before end of season is to improve performances and results. Only other way to avert it is sacking potter but that would lead to greater issues for this season.

                        Lots of reasons boehly to want to strengthen squad as much as possible this window even if he has already given up on top 4, which I would advise to do if he hasn’t already πŸ˜€

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                        #202691
                        Luckydestiny
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                          “Wouldn’t promoting a young striker be more beneficial as there’s a potential benefit in the longer term, unlike the Felix deal?”

                          Not if there are no chances being created and the players picking the ball up between lines are unable to find the striker.

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                          #202692
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                            This is very similar to what I’ve been saying. What exactly is a “winning scenario” from this move?

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                            #202693
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                              If I was a Chelsea fan, I obviously wouldn’t be bothered. He’s potentially better than what is there so it’s irrelevant that it likely won’t pay off in monetary terms. I just can’t see any financial sense to the move but it will be interesting to see how he gets on. Had tons of promise as a youngster.

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                              #202694
                              steveosnakeeye
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                                Another overrated player and glad he went to Chelsea rather than us

                                Chelsea seen to be using the expensive scatter gun approach to buys snd bohly is doing what we all thought Newcastle would do 🀣

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                                #202697
                                Luckydestiny
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                                  Simon Jordan made a good point,

                                  Wages are wages so put them to one side as if a player is going to play for you then you’re going to pay the wages,

                                  So now there is a 9m loan fee which seems huge for 6 months,

                                  However if you bought a 80m player on a 5 year contract then that’s effectively 8m for every 6 months of the contract.

                                  Sure if he is great we will be gutted not to have buy option, but if he is not we cut our ties having paid pro rata for 6 months

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                                  #202699
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    Getting Chelsea up the League has to be the main objective Felix is a quality player and won’t do us any harm in that direction. Chelsea have the 4th best defensive record in the PL creating chances and scoring goals is the problem Felix could certainly help out with the creating side of that. I’m not worried about the Β£9m loan fee and who knows what might happen at the end of the season. Once we have one or two of the transfers bedded in ( still 20 days to go too)and we have Chilwell and James back and possibly at some stage Kante we could be looking at a very different Chelsea.

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                                    #202700
                                    threeps
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                                      Will Felix fit the Chelsea system? You’ll soon have him and Havetz and neither are strikers, and then at the end of season they swap Felix for Nkunku who again isn’t a striker.

                                      I wanted either Felix or Nkunku at Liverpool to take over the Firmino role before we got Nunez. But Liverpool have goal scoring wide players and at least used to press which a forward dropping onto midfield helps with.

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                                      #202701
                                      Luckydestiny
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                                        Thats pretty much spot on threeps.

                                        I am almost sure he will be played as a 10 or false nine. Now if he does that role better than havertz or mount can then that would obviously represent an improvement from whst we have now, however as you rightly point out he needs those ahead of him to be able to take advantage of any chances he can provide and be making the types ofvruns to enable it also.

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                                        #202702
                                        sean the sailor
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                                          Felix is a huge upgrade on what chelsea have a minute. Team is in total transition. Mad injuries.

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                                          #202703
                                          Luckydestiny
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                                            Hope so Sean 🀞

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