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  • #203381
    Chucky McChuckface
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      If he got a red for that, then Liverpool should have had about 42 reds earlier… that was the softest since Buffy’s favourite pink panties…

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      #203382
      Nike19
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        Another upset on the cards lol ๐Ÿ˜€

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        #203383
        Nike19
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          Arguably better effort all round from Wrexham than Liverpool! Magic of the Cup is alive. A few quid for the club earning a replay at Bramall Lane.

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          #203384
          sean the sailor
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            No excuses again. We are poor and the season is a right off. Absolutely no idea how fabhino wasnt sent off.

            Paul money could have been spent for a midfielder I agree but we are always looking to balance the books. We have spent over 50m net once. Itโ€™s not proper support like Arsenal, Chelsea etc have got. We have spent money but no were near what others have.

            We wouldnโ€™t have signed gakpo if Diaz and jota werenโ€™t injured. I get what your saying . The forward line is sorted for a few years.

            If Klopp gets 200m net to spend this summer then I can see us really pushing on but this season is gone. We are very poor at the moment and no excuses.

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            #203385
            threeps
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              We are the 3rd highest spenders in 2022, not spending cannot be an excuse. Not spending wisely is a different argument. And you should never buy a player for 30-40m because a couple are injured for a few games. What happens to Gakpo when Jota and Diaz return? I have a feeling one will go in the summer.

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              #203386
              CM
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                What a buy Casemiro is turning out to be. Makes a difference to the United side.

                commiseration to the Liverpool gents on here. After all the miracles Klopp has delivered, you probably needed a season like this in order for the board to wake up and realise he needs proper investment.

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                #203387
                Nike19
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                  3ps, fully agree with your point. We signed a player that went injured in Melo. We now rely on a 37 year old. Money’s been spent, but the signings unfortunately haven’t hit the ground running in Nunez and Gakpo.

                  We’re not addressing the problems that need to be addressed, i.e. midfield. That needs sorting. I don’t know why Klopp is taking the direction of Elliot and Bajcetic. There’s no purpose, no style, no authority. Teams have been allowed to play their game against us.

                  We definitely need to make some big decisions this summer and there are players quite simply that will need to move on. Fabinho possibly one of them.

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                  #203388
                  sean the sailor
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                    Maybe bobby will go threeps? Jota only signed anew deal and Diaz is only here a year? Be very surprised if jota or Diaz leave

                    Ah who k led to be honest. Areal mess at the minute and canโ€™t see anything changing this season

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                    #203389
                    Editor
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                      Haven’t seen much of Liverpool to be honest, recently. How has Gakpo been playing? Is he doing alright but just not scoring or is he just mot doing much?

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                      #203390
                      sean the sailor
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                        Are we really the third highest net spending in 2022 threeps do you include gakpo in that who really didnโ€™t sign till 1st jan?

                        I thought a few clubs be a head of us so thatโ€™s a bit of a surprise.

                        We have debated for years that we needed new midfielders. You always said we didnโ€™t and now we need two and a centre back. We need 200 million net to compete next season. We have spent over 50m net once. Chelsea have spent More net in 5 months then Klopp had in7 years so money is a bit of an excuse.

                        our front line is now sorted for a long time. It was like years ago when people argued we didnt need another forward when bobby, Salah and mane were flying. We signed jota and he did play. We have needed midfielders years now. Itโ€™s not a new thing all of a sudden

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                        #203391
                        Editor
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                          Imagine telling someone 2 years ago that Arsenal would look lightyears ahead of Liverpool now. You’d have been laughed out of the room. Those two clubs, for different reasons, perfectly showcase how quickly a club’s fortunes can change.

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                          #203392
                          threeps
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                            I know some of the players can play other positions but Diaz, Jota and Gakpo primarily play as a right footed AML. The last few games Nunez has played there too with Gakpo playing central (Jota can of course also play there) which i cannot get my head arohnd the thinking. Carvahlo I think needs to leave for his career maybe a loan or maybe permanent.

                            If we are looking to replace Bobby (talk of a short term contract on going) shouldn’t we replace him with someone who primarily plays in that position rather than as a additional string to their bow? Or is this the plan with Gakpo hence him starting there, but then why sign Nunez?

                            So many questions about the direction the team is going at the moment! We look like Utd under Ole with no identity, wrong signings and wrong team selections.

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                            #203393
                            paul powers tash
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                              Thanks for your replies Sean Threeps & Nike.From an outsider looking in.Most of the blame for Liverpool’s drop off this season should be laid at FSG’s door.They’ve ridden on the back of JK’s
                              brilliance over the last few years.

                              I’d love to know the reasons why consecutive sporting director’s Michael Edwards left.Then Julian Ward going (at the end of the season) My own view if Liverpool don’t get 4th place this season.They’ll be no ยฃ200M investment in the summer (certainly not from FSG)

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                              #203394
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                                I’ll be honest. I still think Liverpool will somehow get top 4. I think either us or Newcastle will let a side in and I fancy Liverpool to have a resurgence and just sneak in. Get top 4, get Bellingham in and another midfielder and they’re back challenging again IMO.

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                                #203395
                                threeps
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                                  Sorry Sean apparently it’s the 3rd highest spend on international transfers

                                  https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64412215.amp

                                  PPT I don’t blame the owners they are not the ones training the players or choosing the signings. They out up a huge amount for Nunez and later a sizable amount for Gakpo. They’ve in the past spent record amounts on players like Alisson and VvD. Klopp has been backed, not to City or Chelsea levels, but he has still spent lots.

                                  No idea about the reasons behind Edwards and Ward leaving. Did they jump or were they pushed? I think Klopp has actually relinquished too much control and needs to get it back to his way and identity.

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                                  #203396
                                  sean the sailor
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                                    Ed, we have absolutely no chance of top 4 as we are so bad at the minute. We really look poor but I donโ€™t believe we will bounce back next season. I really do but this season is gone and Iโ€™d rather finish 8th with no Europa place

                                    I still think we can attract players without cl money but thatโ€™s if we have money to spend. Big money

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                                    #203397
                                    sean the sailor
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                                      Threeps, Iโ€™ve heard pep has to much control (donโ€™t know what to believe) and Edwards and ward didnโ€™t like the direction we were heading. His book was a silly thing to do aswell.

                                      Sorry the above should state I really believe we can challenge next season and bounce back

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                                      #203398
                                      nine nine nine
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                                        Fabulous game at the Racecourse Ground what the FA Cup is all about I didn’t intend to watch it but I got hooked.

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                                        #203399
                                        Mikus LFC
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                                          As threeps says, this isn’t about money. I personally think this is the classic case of a club who reached the top and then got a bit drunk on the success and forgot the methods that got them there. I’m not writing Nunez off yet, but to spend that much money on someone so raw to me reeked of the club almost trying to make a statement by buying “hot property” in Europe whilst neglecting other positions. Gakpo also currently looks a long way off imo. And even if you take the position that Thiago is our best midfielder, we’re now relying on yet another older player liable to injuries in midfield. He wasn’t bought with the future in mind.

                                          To echo what Ed says, it can take years to build something. But it can be undone in an afternoon.

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                                          #203400
                                          Nike19
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                                            Ed, I honestly can’t see us getting Top 4. We’re not even good for upper mid-table at the moment. We’re poor. For a while, I have seen for example any real authority on possession and ball retention, not sustained. No passing the ball too methodically the exhibits purpose and meaningful play.

                                            We look lost and short of confidence. Lots of players even Konate look like they’ve been on kryptonite. More at this point of time in one game at a time.

                                            Brighton deserve their victory today. Decent manager too and by the looks of it, good scouting in bringing players through and integrating them into the first 11.

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