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Allison
Bradley Konate VVD Robbo
Grav Mac
Salah Szobo Wirtz
Isak?Still don’t like that double pivot. Too ‘eightish’ for me.
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With who in charge? Are we sticking to a Slot 4231 or can we post alternatives?
I agree on the 2 in 4231 especially under Slot. If it were two dedicated no 6s that let the full backs bomb on relentlessly then I could get it but ours is too flat and too forward. Personally I love a one dedicated DM ala Fabinho.
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Your starting XI with everyone fit regardless of who’s in charge.
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I saw something on from the Echo online (heaven knows why I visited there!) something on the back of Sensini being in our line up next season. Barely recognized it from the number of changes.
It’s like the ‘Class of 2018/19’ fading away with only Van Dijk of the originals left. Pretty scary stuff.
If anybody get put together a 11 for this Sunday with confidence, I’ll take my hat of to them.
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There are a few ways to set up the team but I would argue that our strongest lineup would be Alison, Robbo, Van Dijk, Konate, Frimpong, Szoboszlai, Jones, Wirtz, Ekitike, Isak and Salah. While playing a version of a 424.
That is starting lineup we have not seen for the whole season I think. You might wonder why Jones but I have been impressed with him when he starts there with Szobo, with them both just acting as box to box midfielders behind Wirtz in the hole.
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Bingo think that team would be ripped apart, very soft midfield with only 2 in there.
I’d probably go 433.
Ali
New RB. Jacquet/Leoni VvD Kerkez
New DM protector
Szoboszlai Wharton
Diomande Isak WirtzMost of the play centres around the left side with Wharton and Wirtz. Then Diomande on the right for width and penetration. Isak to feed that ego of his with plenty of goals.
If we are restricted to the current squad then
Ali
Frimpong Konate VvD Kerkez
Grav (disciplined)
Szoboszlai Jones/MacAllister
Salah Isak WirtzThat midfield still looks soft however but it’s the best I think we can do.
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Mac and Gravy are the softest players in the team this season! I don´t think I´ve seen either one win a dual all year round! Jones has the record for most recoveries in a game this season, with 16 of them, the all time record in the premier league is 18.
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I agree, Gravenberch and MacAllister have been very soft, but it’s not just about putting players into positions. If you play with 2 central midfielders that are both box to box, then lets assume they are switched on enough so one remains back whilst the other goes forward, you are going to be massivily over run in the middle on a fast transition. Similiar to what happens already this season, as neither “6” are sitting, and there are huges gaps.
Rather see a dedicted sitter and two guys with legs in front pressing like hell. Pretty much the Klopp midfield.
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Wirtz would also have some defensive duties there in the middle, we don´t have a proper number 6 in my opinion, Gravy has been shit this season and playing way further up.
When ever Jones and Szoboszlai have played together in this system they have bossed the midfield, nobody passed the ball through them, nobody ran through them either. We even managed early goals with them there in the first half, that was a first for 25-26 games in the league or something like it.
So I can´t back either of Mac or Gravy for the first team, I would not hesitate in benching both of them, Mac had a good game against Palace though.
If we had a midfield destroyer I would back him over Jones but we do not have one at this point. I would even take two of them over Szobo as well to give Wirtz the free role he needs to shine.
I might even be tempted to play Jones at right back over Frimpong in that case. He had a really good game against Palace. He also had a really good game against Everton in midfield.
I just don´t understand the lads here that are backing Kerkez over Robbo, Robbo is still a far superior player, Robbo has been involved with all of our good games this season. Be it in the league, cups or champions league. We went out of every competition while he sat on the bench!.
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Its the manager killing grav this season. Its the manager killing the midfield. Its exactly like ten hag utd. Huge gaps in midfield. Easy to plsy through. To much ground to cover.
Look how quickly arsenal get back into shape when lose the ball. Slot keeps banging on about xg but one of our biggest problem, if not biggest is we concede far to many goals.
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Grav was superb for half of last season. He was fairly disciplined, he had his little receive pass from Virgil and shoulder drop past the press signature move, and he kept his passing fairly limited. He was never a “destroyer” (do these even exist at elite level?), but his positioning (more important than putting the boot in) was spot on most of the time.
Said it a few times, I knew we would be in trouble when he said in a preseason interview he was excited about playing more forward than last season, right after we signed two attacking full backs that really necessitate a disciplined DM.
So my 433 with him as the DM is based on last season and not this, and even then I think we can improve with someone else. But whoever tells him he should play further forward needs re-educating! He turns into prime Moussa Dembele when he gets near the box!
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I’m really just putting Jones in there because he is more passionate about the club. He takes it as a matter of pride that nobody pushes him of the ball. I don’t see that mentality from the rest of our midfielders except Szobo. Who we all know will run himself to the ground for the team. I think they both share that trait and that is why I am putting them ahead of both Mac and Gravy.
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What’s the old saying the you only realize how important they were when they’re gone. The miles covered and the tackles put in by a younger Henderson and a Milner who himself was seemingly signed a stop-gap bit-part.
It’s the physicals and the keeping up of pace we’ve struggled with. And both Grav and Macca have struggled. Endo was actually a very good supplement.
This and Reinforced strong centre backs would fix these areas for us.
Must say of late, I have been impressed with Curtis covering at Right-back. He seems to be more composed when on the ball in our own area.
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In in line with 3ps’s Blueprint and for me it’s also about the different things individuals can bring to form Synergy than just plugging the gaps. We’re still lacking traits, characteristics and definitely guile.
The big thing for me to try and fundamentally rebuild is MENTALITY MONSTERS.
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I like Jones as a player, I think he deserves more game time and he seems to be learning that right back role. He had a very good game against Palace, probably his best at right back. Im gonna say that his performance albeit only on the first half against Everton was also his best 45 minutes or so. I cant remember when he got injured exactly. Also in those clutch matches he performs, no matter what is asked of him.
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NB, thing is with Jones, he’s been like this since day one. Plays well for 1-2 games then either picks up a niggle and/or reverts to bang average type. Never put a string of really consistent performances over a long stretch. It happened under Klopp and now Slot.
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Exactly rob, jones is good just not consistent
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Jones probably isn’t good enough to be a nailed on starter for us, but to lose him as a squad player would be madness, unless his heart is set on a move to be a first teamer.
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Agree D/H. Right-back of late he seem to have taken in his stride and Squad Player and an impact starter or later on the game than a 90 minute player.
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I just checked our 25 man squad (inc slot) winning the league last year. I know it’s obvious, but wow what a transition we’re in.
Gone (sold/loaned): jaros, kelleher, quansah, tsimikas, trent, elliott, diaz, nunez, jota
Injured most of this season: danns, bradley
Never gets to play anyway: endo, chiesaThat is 13/24 players – where gomez and robertson are two of them.
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