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“Will there be games where he can play there that suit the opposition?
Yes”

Exactly. There will be games when Frimpong I’d needed as the RB.

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“set players up with a killer pass! ”

Like the offside goal from Isak? Like the pass for Gakpo’s assist vs Forest? Like the assist for Munoz vs Forest?

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Fully agree Macclad it was the first game in it seems a long time I really enjoyed, especially the first half. Way more forward thinking. I disagree with Asian that the second half was “brutal”, to me it became more of a battle against a team roared on by a passionate crowd trying to get back into a game they are trailing in but not out of yet. Thought we handled it pretty well.

Wirtz did tapper off in the second half, already said this, but as I said that half became a bit of a battle where maybe his skillset isn’t perfect for. A few others dipped too. The first half belonged to Isak, Gakpo and Wirtz, the 2nd to Virgil and Araujo. Overall a good performance by all.

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Wirtz was very good in the first half, the understanding, movements and crisp passing all good. Second half was more of a slog for everyone but he still pressed very well.

The Echo:

Florian Wirtz 8

Denied a goal by a low save from Scherpen. Good low cross for Isak’s disallowed goal after getting in behind. Very involved in the final third, you can see the partnerships with his team-mates slowly blossoming.

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Very good first half, more about keeping them at arms length in the second. Good all round.

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Macallister had a very good half, good positional play and the midfield looked balanced for the first time this season.

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Crisp passing, lots of movement and rotation. Every player very good. No idea what Robs watching with the “shredded on the wings” comment.

Hopefully those saying nothing has changed from Slot can see in that half what Iraola brings, although I admit it’s only 45 mins but hopefully a taste of what’s to come.

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Not necessarily that Frimpong was dropped, it could be horse for courses and Araujo’s skillset is just more suited. At Anfield next it could be the other around.

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Out of the 8 FA trained players, at least 4 must be club trained.

If yoh don’t meet this then your list A is reduced on a one to one ratio for everyone missing.

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It is Sean, but also player traits.

Szoboszlai will always wonder forward and you want him to that’s where he operates the best. Gravenberch has shown to be postionally disciplined but between him, his father allegedly and Slot they removed that and turned him into a more attacking midfielder with limited success. MacAllister is probably the most disciplined but he spends 80% of the game rolling on the floor so difficult for him influence. Plus he lacks the one thing the other two possess, a turn of pace to beat the press.

Nyoni has actually looked the best in his limited time and preseason for the more disciplined midfielder role. Of course, very inexperienced.

The centre backs aren’t too far back, VvD doesn’t engage and runs back towards Alisson, this create even more space. That again is a trait of his, one I think is sadly because he isn’t the physical specimen he once was and needs to compensate. Why I want Araujo to partner him to have that level of aggression increased for the CB pairing.

So yeah Iraola can definitely do a lot of work on the training pitch and I am sure he will, but it will take time for these players to unlearn these traits and instincts that manifested under Slot and do what the new coach wants them to do.

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I have no idea on the Ipswich players but if they can sit deep, soak up pressure, then hit a long ball over our midfield line who will likely be near their penalty area and the have runners run into the vast space as Virgil runs away from them then they have a great chance to score.

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It’s been two games. I think some on here are expecting an instant change. New Manager bounce? It’s actually more of a myth than something worth discussing..

The running and intensity will come but it won’t be instant. As I said you can already see more forward passing than from Slot’s time and attacks are giving the defence less time to organise. Far from perfect, again it will take time, but there are small signs.

I’m worried about our midfield but that’s a collective worry, I hope Iraola can find a way for it to work with what we have. The only player that I have slight worries about is actually Isak who still looks unfit despite looking OK at the WC. A player with movement makes such a difference but he isn’t providing they, but maybe Barcola closer to him will help.

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“You charles” is that some sort of name themed insult? You Richard.

My expectations of Iraola is to slowly repair the damage by Slott by upping the intensity and fitness and reduce the backwards passing, the latter we can already see. But with such glaring holes in the team I’d expect fighting for 3rd.

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You do know Slot was sacked don’t you? You also realise that I wasn’t the one that made that decision? Why was that do you think?

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Factors yes, but not the biggest, but you cant see it.

Everyone else here can*

*almost everyone (FACT)

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You cannot see and/or understand tactics can you Asian?

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The thing is Szoboszlai at either RB or RW makes more sense than at CM, which is weird when he’s our best midfielder. If his midfield partner was disciplined and solid then we could accept his defensive frailties in the middle.

I don’t have a problem of him playing RB and inverting into midfield, but not sure Iraola will do that, he likes his wing overloads.

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“when people have sinister agendas they dont give a flying fuck if you lay down the full facts”

You know I ignored your question about Kerkez because of your unwaving negative opinion of him? Ironic you now mention agendas.

As for your criticism of us critising Slot, do yoh still not understand what he was doing and the negative impact it had? Its pretty simple, I think nearly all Liverpool fans understood.

Slot started to mess it up towards the later part of the 24/25 season when his style, his tactics and more importantly his training methods became prominent and it was downhill from there. And yes it can take that amount of time to transition from one style to another. By the start of the 25/26 season “Slotball” was sadly in full swing with pretty poor results and boring as fuck to watch.

I will give Iraola time as it could take a long time to fix the mess Slot left the team in. But as others have mentioned this window has left him short in a number of areas so he is hamstrung already.

First thing he should do is tell Gravenberch that he is not an attacking midfielder.

My team, I do not expect Iraola to play this

Ali
Frimpong Araujo VvD Kerkez
Gravenberch MacAllister
Szoboszlai Wirtz Gakpo
Isak

Szoboszlai to wonder into midfield rather than playing as a winger or inside forward, Frimpong to utilise the space he will vacate. So slightly asymmetric when in possesion, but the Hungarian covering the right side when out.

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A very simplistic way of looking at it Asien.

Do I expect a title challenge? No. But I expect a change in style for the boring crap from last year. The intensity may take a while for those players to get the weekly holidays and half arsed training out of their system, but it will come.

Is the team full of holes? Yes. We are short of a good defensive minded midfielder, a RB that can play RB and not always injured and a RW at the least.

Was it last year? Well we had a RW who just came off the greatest season by an indivual in the history of the league, now we have no one who naturally plays there. Don’t think many called Salah out, we called Slot of for his mundane tactics that stiffeled him. Gravenberch had a good season previous when he was defensive minded, last season he went forward a lot more leaving holes and Slot did nothing to fix this until the last few games.

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Interested to know how FSG screwed us over to be honest.

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