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Wenger in his new role working for FIFA has come up with the solution to the offside problems currently affecting VAR. Which will be presented to IFAB shortly.
“No player will be deemed offside if part of his body that he can score a goal with is onside”
Brilliant and simple ie Giroud’s goal would have stood against United on Monday night because the whole of his left leg was onside rather his right toe being offside.
I guess that’s why they call him the Prof!
We’ll done Arsene.
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What if a player sets off earlier to beat the offside trap and his trailing foot, if you can picture it in the natural running position, is onside but every other part of him is off? You could be talking daylight offside. Doesn’t even need to be his foot, could be just his big toe!
You’d probably end up with strikers standing legs akimbo just to stay onside!
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You’d probably end up with strikers standing legs akimbo just to stay onside!
Don’t tell Slaphead… 🙂
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Wenger’s proposal which is going before IFAB for approval is that “if any part of the players body that he can score a goal with is onside then he’s onside”.
All in all it seems a lot better than what we’ve got currently but nothing is perfect although this is probably as perfect as it’s going to get.
Still needs to be agreed though. Personally I hope it goes through.
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makes sense and gives favour to the attacker which is “meant” to happen but doesnt and we might see a few more goals, seems to be the biggest issue with VAR is its taking away so many goals the games are becoming sanitized way to much….sterile, like Nancy!
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if they want to improve games it should be with a bias to be able to score goals, whats the point otherwise!!
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Joking aside, I’m not sure how this would make much of a difference. All they’re doing is simply moving the “lines” as it were. Now they’ll be drawing lines with the last bit of whatever rather than the first bit of whatever.
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Got any better ideas Chucky??
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IFAB general secretary Lukas Brud told Sky Sports News on Wednesday: “There will be no law change regarding offside at this month’s annual general meeting.
“We welcome Mr Wenger’s views and look forward to discussing it, as a group.
“But our AGM is a point of discussion on offside and any law change will follow only after further dialogue in the game over the coming months.”
The FA said: “There will be a full discussion of all matters relating to this at IFAB. We have no comment or views to share until that time.”
Wenger, FIFA’s head of global development, said: “You will not be offside if any part of the body that can score a goal is in line with the last defender, even if other parts of the attacker’s body are in front.
“That will sort it out and you will no longer have decisions about millimetres and a fraction of the attacker being in front of the defensive line.”
“I want things to improve. I am not a specialist on referees. I respect them a lot. We are not judging the work of the referees here. I am frustrated with the situation and all that is involved. We should not be sitting here and talking about this. So let’s hope things improve.”
Seemingly nothing will change anytime soon.
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Yes puppy, leave the rules as they were (pre-VAR) would be my first choice… 🙂
May 2nd choice, play the game as normal, have the ref look at the sodding monitor if they’re close (unless you a complete moron or a goose, that should take 1 replay, MAX!), and if he can’t decide whether it’s onside or not within 30 seconds (without the stupid lines!), give the benefit of the doubt to the attacker.
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Chuckles, I’d go with the soft decision as they do with cricket, if it’s not clear and obvious with a quick look on the monitor you go with the assistants original decision…..Pagan
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Even better…
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I’d also stop all this bullocks when players deliberately stand off-side and rush back on-side, just playing silly-buggers when they do that.
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There’s about 4 for you puppy! 🙂
#peggyforpressy
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Chucky, love it or loathe it we’re stuck with VAR now currently as Garry Neville said the other night if you’re offside you’re offside I don’t have a problem with that the VAR decision on Giroud for the offside v United currently he was offside.
But football is about goals and currently the rules seem to be more commited to denying goals than anything else.
The current problem is not goals being ruled out for offside not being offside but under VAR it’s that the ruling out is too extreme Wenger’s proposal solves that.
Passing the responsibility to the Ref on the pitch side monitor won’t make anything different goals will still be ruled out because the current rules are too extreme
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Personally I don’t have a problem with the current offside rule with VAR if it is implemented correctly and consistently. Every team has had issues with it, some for some against, even Liverpool with goals vs Villa and against probably others that I cannot remember. The Villa one in particular was harsh as it appeared the VAR line showed Firmino onside only to redrawn again at an angle to show the match officials got it right. I think there sometimes is a conspiracy with the officials but not against any team but positively towards each other, they don’t want to go against their colleagues.
Until the men (and woman) in charge collectively sort themselves out and officiate to a higher standard it will not matter which part of the body, whether its leading, trailing, individually calculated CoG, whatever, there will always be mistakes, contentious issues and arguments between fans.
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9, just to counter Gary Neville’s argument, no definitive proof was provided to actually show Giroud was offside, yes there was a nice photo of him with his foot closer to the goal than any part of the defender, but yet again this wasn’t tied to when the ball was played forward, surely that has to be part of the process they show us….Pagan
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Threeps, that’s why it should be the ref second checking his own decisions….Pagan
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