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  • #169796
    PaganPagan
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    Offside does not consider the position of the arm/hands and that includes the goalkeeper.

    Iโ€™ve not seen the incident but when the lines are drawn they are perpendicular to the touch lines, which is different to the picture we look at, so although a picture never lies it may not tell the whole truth.

    Once again not having seen it, if itโ€™s too close to call by the naked eye in real time then go with what assistant indicates, obviously if itโ€™s a real howler then VAR should intervene….Pagan

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    #169797
    Nike19Nike19
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    Sean, footage on here mate. This is just standard to guiding the player as to where you want the ball played. Couldn’t see anything wrong with this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJr-7BBkfZc&ab_channel=SkySportsFootball

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    #169798
    Nike19Nike19
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    Linesman/woman are perfectly more capable and reliable than the individual in front of the screen.

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    #169799
    PaganPagan
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    Nil, Iโ€™ve had a look at that, and I would say if you could digitally move the camera angle to level with play then his armpit is offside. Thatโ€™s the trouble with VAR, The officials have to go to the letter of the law, even if thereโ€™s doubt about the accuracy of the system (itโ€™s only a best guess when the ball actually starts to move forward) then they have to go with the evidence they get….Pagan

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    #169800
    PaganPagan
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    Nil, 18 months ago you were calling for VAR due to the amount of errors the officials were making, now you say theyโ€™re more reliable?…..Pagan

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    #169801
    Nike19Nike19
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    Pagan, in my view, the stance overall should be judged by the positioning of the players feet. If he’s in line or behind, then he’s perfectly fine.

    I admit openly, we did have it our way last season, and it was a novelty, Pagan.

    This season however, it’s gone the other way and lots of teams have been bearing the brunt of wrong decisions.

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    #169802
    sean the sailor
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    Itโ€™s ruining the game in my view pagan. It really is

    Itโ€™s tough enough without fans but not being able to celebrate a goal just ruins it

    I wish it was never brought in

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    #169803
    PaganPagan
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    Nil, basically itโ€™s any part of the body you can score with, and thatโ€™s always been the case.

    As for wrong decisions, you just didnโ€™t get them last season, itโ€™s no different this season for the vast majority of teams. It was rubbish last season and itโ€™s no better this…..Pagan

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    #169804
    PaganPagan
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    Sean, totally agree with you, myself and Chuckles were dead against it prior to it being brought in, and we were a minority of two.

    Itโ€™s hard on the ref as they have to act within the laws of the game with the evidence given to them, no more common sense, no more taking into consideration the conditions, VAR doesnโ€™t allow for wind or rain.

    The cry last year was it was ruining the game for the match going fans, well thanks to COVID, we now know itโ€™s just ruing the game as a whole…..Pagan

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    #169805
    LuckydestinyLuckydestiny
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    Ziyech

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    #169806
    nine nine nine
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    Lucky, if Ziyech had been a Golfer he would have been Garry Player. And if Silva was a Car he would be a Rolls Royce.๐Ÿ˜Š

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    #169807
    Nike19Nike19
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    Pagan/Sean, Gents totally agree in the game being ruined absolutely true.

    Prior to this, there were years of discussions/debates and cries effectively for Video Technology. When we finally have it, the problems have amplified.

    We’re scratching heads in how it’s made things worse. It’s the persons operating and managing this and ultimately, the Rule-makers.

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    #169808
    nine nine nine
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    VAR is 99.9% right on offsides. People may not like it because sometimes the margins are so tight but that’s the way it is and complaining about it every week seems pretty pointless it won’t change this season and without IFAB change things in the Summer it won’t change next season either.

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    #169809
    Nike19Nike19
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    ๐Ÿ˜€ I am wholeheartedly still Mesmerized with Southampton still at the Top ๐Ÿ™‚ Never seen this in all my years. Just Brilliant ๐Ÿ™‚

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    #169810
    nine nine nine
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    Not since Leicester eh Nil.๐Ÿ˜Š

    Difference is Southampton won’t win the PL title.

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    #169811
    Nike19Nike19
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    Nine, I’d disagree on that figure mate. Common sense is out of the window. There should be in my view leeway in favour of the Forward. To me too, it undermines the purpose of a ‘Linesman’.

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    #169812
    PaganPagan
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    9, it may be 99.9% correct judging the evidence it is given, however itโ€™s only as accurate as the guess when the ball moves forward.

    Nil, Itโ€™s wrong to blame the officials, they have to act on the evidence theyโ€™re given against the laws of the game, and as time goes on the laws will be rewritten to make them black and white so VAR becomes infallible.

    We will end up with a game that is played 100% within its laws, but it wonโ€™t be the game that we grew up with…..Pagan

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    #169813
    Nike19Nike19
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    Haha, Nine 8:07: that was a great journey mate and experience living locally to see the Community really pull together. I felt really bad though for Ranieri for the way he was treated considering he was the man that ultimately guided Leicester.

    A Gent is Claudio Ranieri Nine, and not many of them around.

    Cheers

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    #169814
    PaganPagan
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    Nil, to be fair Ranieri was used to it, Chelsea treated him equally as badly…Pagan

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    #169815
    nine nine nine
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    Nil @8:13pm true enough buddie on all counts.

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