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  • #28436 Score: 0

    sean the sailor
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    Treeps, it’s a very good win mate

    We are oatoabd very solid. The best thing is the change at the back. So solid and organized. Excellent 3 points but city wow! Just on another level

    #28441 Score: 0
    Hightown hope
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    And what a free kick by Trent. He’s been so poor for us this season, so it was good to see him strike like that. As for Hendo, well, what can one say…I bet Davinci is loving it! Milner or Fab in next week rather than Keita, I would think.

    #28451 Score: 0

    Mikus
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    Klopp remember, has previously admitted that his philosophy is to entertain first, with the result second (though he’d have argued that entertaining well would lead to a good result). So what’s happened this season to Klopp?? Has he really adapted to the league and adapted his philosophy?? Or has something else happened?? I’d actually argue for the latter. There’s no doubt that we have much better playing staff at the back which has transformed the defence – and whilst Klopp has helped to bring those players in, and is no doubt happy with all these wins, I’m not sure the *way* we are currently playing and attacking was part of his plan at the start of the season. It’s all very makeshift in midfield and it’s broken the attacking flow of the front 3. That couldn’t have been part of his plan? Now of course we’re still doing enough to win games – but we aren’t doing enough to win the big top 6 clashes having drawn 3 and won 1. Klopp *cannot* be happy with that. Coutinho and Ox are two huge players that have yet to be replaced this season, and Klopp must be wary of that. If Liverpool are to overtake City, they need to find that person sooner rather than later. Surely Keita, our £65 million pound man, has to start getting some more games soon. As far as I’m concerned this team is only flying with one engine (the defence) and a spluterring second engine (attack). It may be enough to take down the lesser sides, but if it can’t blow the bigger sides down, you can forget any hope of a title. And as for this feeling that City are unbeatable – are they?? Imagine if Liverpool had the attack last season to the defence this season. I’d say we’d be at the top now, clear of City. We’ve got to seize this opportunity whist we’re still well in it!

    #28468 Score: 0

    sean the sailor
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    Mikus, we are still creating plenty of chances. People were complaining we couldn’t defend. Now we can.

    What do people want? We are still good to watch. We have scored more goaks then this time last year

    This time last season we played againest everton and wba and drew. We are solid now. Misfiled needs to be sorted but no way are the front 3 as stale as people are saying

    I find it crazy that some people are being so negative

    #28469 Score: 0

    sean the sailor
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    We beat spurs away. We drew with Chelsea. Really tough games

    I was disappointed we didn’t beat aresnal but come on. It’s a fantastic start and any other time we be too only for we are battling with some top teams and an unreal city team

    #28470 Score: 0

    Mikus
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    Sean, I’m actually being positive in the sense that I think City can actually be beaten this season if we get our attack back on track. The fact that we are just 2 points behind a top City side is actually hugely encouraging. I think we all know this team can get better, but this opportunity *has* to be seized upon so I make no apology for being over critical. We can’t guarantee some players won’t leave next season or we suffer bad injuries – whilst City are beatable, the opportunities to challenge and beat them are much harder to find for a club like us who haven’t had the same resources.

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    Hightown hope
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    Now I’ve heard everything…Sean saying he can’t believe how negative some people. 😂😂😂fantastic, mate, it’s lovely to see you with some positivity after all these years. Welcome to the ‘enjoy the moment’ club!!

    #28474 Score: 0
    Makaveli
    Makaveli
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    Sean, it’s not quite as solid as it sounds to compare the start of this season to last. As last seas went on, we progressed as a team, developmentally. Just because we’re back to the start of a new one, doesn’t mean that our development has reset to the previous year.

    I think you’re focusing too much of this “negativity”. I say that because I don’t see it as negativity myself, even if it sounds like it. For me it’s worry or a cautious approach. We all know the results are brilliant and it’s about sustaining those results. If you look at some of our matches, we came very close to losing a few, or not winning others. I don’t say that we’re here because of luck but luck as definitely been more in favour than against, by some bit.

    That said, we are here on merit, with one of the best defences in the world right now. We might be scoring goals but we are definitely lacking the flow and killer instinct that we had for most of last season.

    The more genuinely negative side of things might be in discussions about the 2 new lads in midfield. Neither are working out so far. How long before we start to lose hope that they will ever work out? There are strong rumours that Fabinho is already done at the club. Personally I think they are BS but you won’t see me saying that they are 100% unfounded. Maybe Klopp cant get him to do what he bought him for? It’s a small possibility. A very uncomfortable thought…

    For the record, I still think Fabinho will be a success at the club.

    #28475 Score: 0
    Makaveli
    Makaveli
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    In the past it’s been me who’s been unable to fathom negativity, or just being really positive etc… Don’t get me wrong, I do often think of our position in the table and how amazing it is.

    #28479 Score: 0

    sean the sailor
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    The front 3 have 20 goals between them after 17 games. That’s not bad. My point is we didn’t get going till around this time later

    The minute we scored yday the game opened up. Every team sits back againest us.

    Mikus fair points mate. My problem people are focusing on the attack when we are still scoring goals. It can be better but ffs you would swear they had done fuck all this season

    #28480 Score: 0

    sean the sailor
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    Don’t believe that for a minute about fabhino

    Robertson only started to get going at Brighton in December. Ox in Jan. Both were wrote off aswell. They will be given time and there’s absolutely no chance fabhino will be sold in Jan.

    #28485 Score: 0
    Makaveli
    Makaveli
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    Ya, I don’t think it’s true about Fab but that’s not the same thing as me knowing for sure that we’re not seeing a puff of smoke, if you catch my drift.

    There was that one game, the Anfield tie against the Serbs and Fabinho was just incredible. It was that moment where I knew I wanted t see Fabinho start the following matches but he’s so far not managed to show the same promise in the PL ties since. I wonder if Klopp will play him in the derby? It might be a bit of a shock for a player who has struggled with the intensity of the PL but on the other hand, the derby has always been an opportunity got players to step up and show that they’ve got what it takes. From MacAllister to Van Dijk on his debut, it certainly doesn’t hurt to put in a performance against them.

    On the other hand, he could be found completely out of his depth but look at our other options. Keita has a tendency to pick up reds, so is this the game for him? Who knows, maybe the same applies to him regards opportunities. With Henderson out, one of them will surely make an appearance.

    I guess they have one more match before then to help Klopp make his mind up. As for the forwards, ya they have quite a few goals now. Salah and Mane with 13 PL goals between them isnt bad and has certainly been improving.

    #28497 Score: 0

    sean the sailor
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    Mikus ye we developed as a team as the season went on so why can’t we this season?last season we were dropping silly points at this stage. We can go up a gear but I’m still enjoying watching us play and I’m delighted the defence has come in leaps and bounds when even with the signing of vvd, people thought we would still ship goaks.

    #28498 Score: 0
    Makaveli
    Makaveli
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    I assume you meant me 😛

    To answer your question, I never said we can’t develop as we did last season, if fact the trend with Klopp at the club indicates that we will. Reason I brought up the thing about last season is just in how I think it’s best to view the progression. not as seasons placed next to eachother but to think of it as one linear line. Now, if you think of it that way, I think the decline of our quality in attack is more apparent. I’m not going to mention the factors I’ve stated above and before for and against why there has been a change but only saying that there has been. The attack is improving though, which is all we can hope for. We’re not leaking goals/points and we broke a stubborn team down. there are no complaints here.

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    Makaveli
    Makaveli
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    Oh Mikus did post. My bad.

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