4th August 2019 at 10:36 am #44359Big JimSpectator183 pts
Haha, I thought Liverpool really benefited from no VAR last season. Kept you lads in the title race! That and all the last minute keeper errors.4th August 2019 at 11:05 am #44365
Nine out of ten full reviews by the video assistant referee (VAR) at the Women’s World Cup prompted the on-field match official to reverse initial decisions, according to a Fifa review which lays bare how the technology is increasing its influence on the game.
Overall the statistics show referees in France relied on video review significantly more than officials at the 2018 launch of VAR at the men’s World Cup in Russia. Fifa said 535 incidents were checked at a rate of 10.28 for each of 52 games played this summer. The equivalent numbers were 455 at a rate of 7.1 for each of 64 games in Russia last year.
Of the 33 full reviews in France, 29 led to a U-turn by the referee. The 33 decisions reviewed at the women’s tournament compared to 20 in 12 more men’s games the previous year, and the rate was one intervention every 1.6 women’s games compared to once every 3.2 men’s games.
The full reviews this summer caused an average delay of a minute and 33 seconds. The decisions led to 13 penalties, four penalty cancellations, four goals disallowed, four goals awarded, three encroachments by goalkeepers during penalties and one red card. Crowds and players in France had expressed frustration at repeated delays when referees have jogged across to the monitors to double-check decisions. During England’s incident-filled 3-0 second-round victory against Cameroon there was more than 16 minutes stoppage time. There was also criticism that the tournament was used as a “guinea pig” for new rules on penalties.
The Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL), the body responsible for match officials in English professional football, has since issued instructions to ensure a “high bar” will be set for referees deciding whether to use the pitch-side review area. Fifa, however, said it had “reflected with satisfaction” on their performance in France. Pierluigi Collina, chairman of the referees committee, said: “The performances seen on the pitch were absolutely in line with our expectations.”
The BBC showed this summer’s Women’s World Cup, with a record-breaking 28.1 million people watching the tournament on television. Yesterday the corporation confirmed it had secured exclusive rights to the 2021 Women’s European Championship in England. Daily Telegraph.
Love it or loathe the above suggests VAR is getting more decisions right than wrong which overall can only be good for the game. Time remains a bit of an issue bit overall I think it’s a case of us just getting used to it.
4th August 2019 at 11:13 am #44370sean the sailorParticipant425 pts
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Might have won the league Jim
If we had got one or two decisions but ah that’s old news mate
City fully deserved the title. That team is relentless. Never seen a team win the ball back so quickly. Excellent then with the ball. Outstanding side and it was one hell of a run in.
Just said at the time, once we lost the leaf, city would never let it slip.
Great season Mate
Don’t think we will get as close this season4th August 2019 at 11:13 am #44371Chucky McChuckfaceParticipant514 pts
It’s still a wank stain in the game…4th August 2019 at 11:40 pm #44434
Now, being more favourable towards Technology, I didn’t think I’d say this, but I’m actually glad there was no VAR today.
I know Atkinson is not a lot of people’s cup of tea, but for me, both Him and Sian Massey did pretty good.
We are going to be reliant on machines as well as humans in judgement. Whenever I see anything related to goal-line tech, it now reminds me of Tennis when calls are made to ‘microscopically’ check whether the ball is out or in.
There was disgruntled faces and signs of frustration and aggression coming out from the recent Wimbledon final between Federer and Djokovic.
Imagine the team being on the receiving end of a goal disallowed because of a few millimetres? It may well happen!5th August 2019 at 7:21 am #44443
Nil, there was VAR at yesterday’s game it reviewed a red card incident which involved Trent Alexander. Other than that it wasn’t needed.
“Imagine the team being on the receiving end of a goal disallowed because of a few millimetres? It may well happen!”
That happened yesterday and to the human eye the ball looked in but goal line technology told the Referee that all of the ball hadn’t crossed the line but that’s got nothing to do with VAR.7th August 2019 at 10:30 pm #44711
I’m thinking this is taking into effect from this season, ala our opening game.
Yikes! 😀 Hope it’s more of just something in the background. Let the Refs ‘earn’ the money 🙂7th August 2019 at 10:49 pm #44712
Nil, PL statement on the 5/06/19
“Premier League clubs were today provided with an update on plans for the introduction of Video Assistant Referees (VAR) in the competition next season.
This included details on in-stadium communications, in particular when there is a clear delay to a match because of VAR, and when refereeing decisions are over-turned due to the intervention of VAR.
The Premier League has created graphics which will be displayed on giant screens to explain any VAR-related delay to a match, and any overturned decision.
Additionally, if the VAR believes there is a definitive video clip which helps explain an overturned decision, it will be broadcast on giant screens.
Also, the Premier League is investigating the possibility of messages and video clips being viewed on handheld devices via an app.
For clubs who do not have giant screens in their stadium, VAR communications will be made via a combination of PA announcements and messages on scoreboards.”8th August 2019 at 1:31 pm #4476411th August 2019 at 10:06 pm #45119
On the evidence of this Weekend, it seems from ‘first impressions’, fans feel when a goal is scored they may be second guessing and also, may hold back from showing emotion instinctively because of the prospect of a decision made to overrule the goal.
Personally, I just say, just carry on as ‘normal’. VAR is there to do it’s job, that is it. It’s certainly not there in place cynically to ‘gate-crash’ a Party.13th August 2019 at 6:45 pm #45226MikusParticipant211 pts
Interestingly, offside VAR guidelines are to now be reviewed. I highlighted this earlier in the summer, saying that extremely marginal decisions weren’t in the spirit of the game, and in any case, as Pagan pointed out, were hard to measure/prove anyway.13th August 2019 at 7:36 pm #45228AdlabParticipant288 pts
It used to be that if you were ‘level’ you were on side ie giving benefit of the doubt to the attacking side. Now, just like v WHU, Sterling was ‘level’ but given off side. Not sure how you change this. The only thing is its the same for everyone.13th August 2019 at 8:21 pm #45230MikusParticipant211 pts
This was very predictable Adlab, can’t believe they didn’t envisage this problem. The ESPN article I highlighted back in the summer from last summer suggested the following:
“If we’re going to get into the realms of a decision being too close to call, then VAR will have to adopt a similar method to cricket whereby there is a margin of error for the “umpire’s call,” or “referee’s call,” where an offside is only given if the decision isn’t a tight one.”
i.e. basically, you give the attacker the benefit of the doubt. It seems even in the advent of better technology, this is a law that still stands the test of time. They should revert back to it.
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