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  • #30937 Score: 0
    newbalance
    newbalance
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    Just thinking in light of it’s sanction to be implemented.

    I’ve been a football fan for a fair bit of a lifetime, but honestly against the Television Cameras that have been accessible for decades, why it has taken this long?

    It still feels too in sketches rather than a Marker in which everybody can get behind with confidence.

    I love Diego, but makes me wonder even back then whether something could have been in place to rule out his 1st.

    #30938 Score: 1

    Anonymous
    102 pts

    Pluses and minuses for me. Overall we just need consistency and that shouldn’t be beyond VAR but the experiment didn’t work imo. They went beyond the remit of clear and obvious mistakes and that set the whole thing back.

    If the VAR ref gets over his ego it would be a massive advantage but the sad thing is that it is not guaranteed they can do that.

    Would love to see it come in and work though.

    newbalance
    #30940 Score: 1

    Brian blue
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    Would tend to agree with that Alfie, VAR is not and may not be perfect but it is better than nothing in my view. My concern is takeing too much away from the REF and many will take it as a soft option, the only answer to that is for Ref to have higher standards. I would not like to see the game de generate into players running around after the Ref trying to imitate a TV screen for every incident…because they will if they can get away with it. No approaches to the Ref should be made except for a Captain, the rest….keep away. I have no doubt VAR will improve as time goes on and we may have to accept some of the decisions

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    Anonymous
    102 pts

    Nil, I wrote this elsewhere regarding offsides, and looking at the spurs match today i’ll expand in it:

    The offside frames really wind me up though as they are so inaccurate they should come with a warning. Anyone who watches cricket and sees the super slow mo in action when deciding if a catch was made will tell you that the frame rate required for football is much higher than what is actually used and therefore the football offside replays are not fit for purpose.

    If you look at the penalty, given by VAR, they first analyse the offside. They draw a line roughly where the Chelsea rightback’s foot is – I say roughly as even on my HD tv you could be near his toe or near his heal – it really is that inaccurate. Because this line is nearer the goal than Kane’s foot is they say he is inside. This ignores the actual offside rule though – somewhat strange for VAR.

    The offside rule is any part of the atta lees body which he can score with.

    Kane is leaning forward so they should use the further most part of his body, excluding his arm or hand. Clearly his knee is nearer goal and his head is too, so is his shoulder and right torso. Why they don’t use that to determine offside is why this is bollocks.

    It might as well be some kid with a crayon.

    newbalance
    #31119 Score: 0
    newbalance
    newbalance
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    Thanks Alfie.

    Fully get you mate. We’ve been calling for VT for years, but then I’d worry about the inaccuracies. Wonder too what that linesman was thinking and Michael Oliver. These guys have to co-operate and be accommodating to the possibility that their call may be overruled.

    It’s this soon becomes a common occurrence, then they’ll no doubt be question marks.

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 1 week ago by newbalance newbalance.
    #31121 Score: 0
    newbalance
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    My thoughts would be to judge each footage from at least 5 different Cameras and tot up the consistencies.

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    Anonymous
    102 pts

    I think the linesman now won’t call close offsides (if VAR is in use). They allow play to continue and then, if a goal is scored, let VAR sort it out.

    Which I think is fair enough.

    If they can use Hawkeye for goal technology then it shouldn’t be too difficult to use it for offsides as well. That should clear it up. But some bloke drawing a line in a semi random place on the pitch doesn’t cut it for me.

    #31123 Score: 0

    nine nine nine
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    570 pts

    All good points Alfie and yesterday as per your example the upper part of Kane’s body looked offside from the VAR still frame to me and allegedly more so from Chelsea’s own still frame of the incident.

    For the players the confusing thing is the action of the linesman who flags for offside which leads to players stopping.

    #31126 Score: 0

    sean the sailor
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    Thought Kane was offside

    No surprise to see him clatter into the keeper

    A Kane special

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    sean the sailor
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    Lafs correct me if I’m wrong but in the wc I thought if linesman flagged the decision was final or was that just for pens?

    Could be totally wrong here

    #31128 Score: 0
    Paxton
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    The linesman didn’t raise his flag until Kane was through 1 on 1. The defenders stopped prematurely, that’s their issue being unprofessional.

    People really love to hate Kane. Just because he continually proves everyone wrong. Even now people still have the audacity to question his ability despite him proving it 5 years in a row. To say Kane clattered in to the keeper just means you don’t deserve any respect as a poster.

    #31129 Score: 0
    Chucky McChuckface
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    1) Yes, Kane clattered into the keeper, just as every single striker in the footballing universe would do in the exact same position. Part of the game now, suggest you all get used to it.
    2) Play to the whistle, not the linesman’s flag. Doesn’t matter if it was off-side or not, that’s purely the defenders fault.
    3) Don’t like VAR, never have, never will. Only going to make the ref’s job harder and give the pussies playing the game more to moan about during the game. Whatever version we end up with, I think it’s only going to stop/start the game and that’s annoying for us armchair warriors, I can’t imagine the frustration of peeps in the stadium.

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    sean the sailor
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    Lol you see it works both ways Paxton lol

    All you do on here is complain about people not posting about spurs, luveroool abd Chelsea fans

    So I was just seeing if you would bite so stop being a hypocrite as you don’t deserve respect for the way you bang on especially about Chelsea fans when spurs have their own bad fans like every club

    #31131 Score: 0
    Chucky McChuckface
    Chucky McChuckface
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    Come on Wasplicker, you’re better than that cyber chum!

    #31132 Score: 0

    sean the sailor
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    Ha ha sorry mate I actually apologize but you two can dish the stick but can’t take it. So was just making a point lads

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