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  • #223341
    Ed de Goey
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      Thanks Blue.

      Name one Threeps, and then explain how they are ‘Far Right’.

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      #223348
      Asiansensation
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        Ed de goey sorry but just partially right! Yeah they helped the Russians with weapons and aid, but they did the heavy lifting and fighting! Also little “britain” and western europe were bent over in the first year of war! Sitting there starving to death and getting tortured or hiding and crying out for help doesnt make the brits some big time tough guys!

        its the russians that fought the war and pretty much applied the causalities to the Nazis, once the majority of the nazis were destroyed/weakened thats when we seen your d-days and normandy take place and the usual “history written by the victors”!

        All ifs and buts.. but if operation barborosa never happened we would have had a different outcome or still fighting the war today!

        Funding the likes of reform, AoDs, and yes Doing NAZI SALUTE says otherwise!

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        #223352
        Ed de Goey
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          Britain was fighting from day 1 and both the US and the UK outproduced Russia in basically every type of war materiel, and by a huge margin. Russia would have folded without support from the West, whilst the reverse can’t be said.

          Germany had no way to invade Britain, having lost the Battle of Britain, and they weren’t winning in North Africa by the time of Barbarossa. It was a matter of time before they eventually lost, and that’s before we get onto the topic of Atomic Weapons.

          Name one Reform policy which is ‘Far Right’.

          And as for the salute, for every Musk that has flung his right arm upwards, I can find you a similar clip of Hilary, Kamala, Obama and Elizabeth Warren making similar gestures. Are they fascists?

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          #223353
          Asiansensation
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            The UK couldnt get food in for their people and rationing! Yeah America i understand but please britain came to prominence a lot later!

            Once again if nazi Germany wanted to invade britain they would have.. had bigger fish to fry!

            Is reform, AoD and elon musk right wing??

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            #223354
            Ed de Goey
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              Germany literally couldn’t invade Britain. The Royal Navy controlled the seas, and after the Battle of Britain, the RAF controlled British skies. After that the clock was ticking on Nazi Germany.

              You’ve gone from ‘Far Right’ to ‘Right Wing’.

              Reform and Musk are Right of Centre. They want strong borders, the people in their countries to be valued more highly than foreigners, fairness in society and government, lower taxes and law and order.

              The Left want to separate us all by identity, raid pensions, raid wealth, tax us all to death, delete free speech and police our opinions. Who is the real ‘Far Right’?

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              #223356
              threeps
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                I live in Germany, trust me AfD is not right of centre. But don’t listen to me, listen to what German intelligence says:

                https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy6zk9wkrdo

                By the way Musk criticised the AfD leader saying she can’t be proper far right as she’s a lesbian. Make of that what you will.

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                #223357
                Ed de Goey
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                  I don’t know much about AfD.

                  But maybe you could tell us which of their policies are ‘Far Right’ ?

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                  #223361
                  threeps
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                    Sure:

                    “Remigration” with “well-tempered cruelty”
                    Björn Höcke and other AfD figures spoke about a “large-scaled remigration project” aimed at reversing immigration with calculated, harsh methods .

                    Ethnic-racist notion of “real” vs. “passport Germans”
                    The party reportedly distinguishes between “real Germans” (based on ancestry) and “passport Germans” (citizens with migration backgrounds), treating the latter as second-class citizens .

                    Xenophobic and Islamophobic messaging
                    Repeated rhetoric portraying migrants and Muslims as a “threatening collective,” attributing increased violence to groups based solely on origin .

                    Alice Weidel’s “religious war” framing
                    In September 2024, Weidel warned of “jihad” or a “religious war being waged against the German population” .

                    Denigration of Islam and EU-sovereignty stance
                    The 2016 AfD manifesto labeled Islam as “foreign to German society” and warned of its expansion, while also criticizing EU treaties as undermining national sovereignty .

                    Beatrix von Storch’s anti-Muslim policy demands
                    Calls for an “Anti-Sharia law,” general surveillance of mosques, and framing Muslims as inherently non-integrable—part of what the BfV cited as violations of human dignity, religious freedom, and democratic principles .

                    Youth wing (Junge Alternative) advocating remigration and ghettos
                    The JA’s platform openly favored “preservation of the German nation in an ethnic sense” by excluding those with foreign roots, including voluntary or forced “remigration.” In one incident, participants reportedly suggested confining Jews and immigrants to “ghettos,” with violent consequences for non-compliance .

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                    #223367
                    Adidas20
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                      The personal swearing should be avoided. That’s not what this community is about and Chucky is a Long Loved Member.

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                      #223369
                      threeps
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                        Nil nobody swore at chucky, it was at someone else, although it was still out of order.

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                        #223374
                        Asiansensation
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                          Sorry ed, i was actually asking your opinion on what your thoughts are on AfD, Teform and Elon… obviously you believe them to be centre right, thats your opinion i respect that.

                          However, my opinion and pretty much many people believe elon has a major focus on the far right!

                          You asked me about reform and their policies…unfortunately i dont know much about reform’s manifesto, all i hear is migration, immigration, foriegners, boats and grooming gangs(they should be all hanged is my opinion btw)… sorry i forgot brexit too!

                          The problem i have are their xenophobic, racist rhetoric ie like sarah pochins burka ban to talking about immigration and trying to unsettle europeans.. not to menntion that pompous prick nigel farage(probably britains highest paid politician) is always lying out of his teeth, having close ties with facists partys such as sweden democrats, victor orban, countless others like err elon musk, crying and attacking human rights, rejecting key principles of democracy!

                          But personally as a party there is nothing there to say that they will sort out britain, the nhs, austerity and make britain great again!

                          Obviously your views seem to state that all the uks/worlds problems stem from migrants and everything will be fixed once their out… low taxes, safe pensions, nhs fully fixed, law and order… fairness in society! Well best of luck… as you might get reform in the next election!

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                          #223375
                          Asiansensation
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                            Threeps, remind me to never debate with you about german politics and AfD…

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                            #223376
                            Asiansensation
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                              Oh yeah mr ed degoey

                              “After that the clock was ticking on Nazi Germany.“

                              What?? so the war was over in october 1940.. and invading russia in 1941 was a desperation for germany because they were losing the war??

                              Though i havent touched history in decades, like literally DECADES.. we must have read different historical evidence and facts! As far as i know/informed the nazis messed up by starting the russian invasion late by a month, was planned for may, started in june, had crappy weather slow them in sumer and fall… winter came early and they froze their balls off… ze germans also misjudged russian weaponary and man power and in the end lost 3-4 millions soldiers, 1000s of aircrafts and tanks and unsuccessfully couldnt get the oil fields it so much needed to continue fueling the war. If hitler didnt go to war, russia backed Germany.. d-day Normandy would have been difficult, the would have put up a stronger fight in africa and god knows what!

                              Anyway cheers for the history lesson, god bless and thank the lord for the free world we live in!

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                              #223377
                              threeps
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                                “Threeps, remind me to never debate with you about german politics and AfD…”

                                I had a little artificial help 😉

                                Regarding ww2 you could fit many instances to fit your own agenda as to when the war was “won”. Personally I put it down to Hitlers mistake in heading to Stalingrad when the Germans were so close to Moscow they could literally see it. Take Moscow, USSR falls, Hitler wins. Don’t underestimate what the Soviets did in ww2.

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                                #223382
                                Asiansensation
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                                  Threeps, ussr was to big to fall! Stalingrad had the river voldo if they blocked that at stalingrad they would have starved the russians of fuel and other resources! The rest is history…

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                                  #223385
                                  Chucky McChuckface
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                                    Who swore at me? Outside, now, behind the bikesheds…

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                                    #223388
                                    Asiansensation
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                                      Chuck.. im sorry, it wasnt me, pleasee, i value my life! I think it was that superman guy.. btw have you seen his last outing?? it was brutal, james gunn should be ashamed!

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                                      #223390
                                      Chucky McChuckface
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                                        It was Jude Law who saved the Soviets, I saw the movie… and James Gunn is an overhyped director who’s made more Arsenal than Spuds movies… a lot like Rahmeem Sterling… he’s had his chance and it’s time to hang up his camera… (although having said that, my kid is still badgering me to go and see it, so if and when we do, I’ll let you know!)

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                                        #223520
                                        Tugay is God
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                                          I swore at Rover because he is clearly a tit. Didn’t even get the point i was making which is how thick he is.

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                                          #223949
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