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    nine nine nine
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      “UEFA are planning reforms of Financial Fair Play with a new version of it, French newspaper Le Parisien reports.

      Manchester City and PSG would be two of the clubs targeted by the latest assault on the nouveau riche, but a number of longer established clubs could also be at risk.

      One of the ideas would be to impose a negative net spend limit of €100million, meaning if a club spend €300million in a summer, they would have to raise €200million in sales. For example, PSG spent €420million last summer and would have to sell €320million worth of players to comply with Financial Fair Play 2.0.

      Another new rule under consideration, one that Manchester United could potentially be impacted by, would be controlling debt. Furthermore, one that seems intended to attack Manchester City and Chelsea in particular, UEFA are considering limiting clubs to 25 professionals, which would prevent the richest clubs from having stockpiles of talent. City and in particular Chelsea sign many players and loan them out, in City’s case often to benefit partner clubs in the City Football Group but also to raise their value and sell for profit as another source of income.

      Finally, something that could make state-back clubs worry, UEFA may look to define “related parties” much more precisely when it comes to revenue sources. City have a deal with Etihad – one in 2018 that is heavily undervalued – and a number of smaller sponsorship deals with companies from Abu Dhabi. PSG meanwhile, have a host of sponsors from Qatar such as Dhabi. PSG meanwhile, have a host of sponsors from Qatar such as QTA, QNB, Ooredoo and BeIN SPORTS, all of which could fall victim to the new “related parties” definition.

      This project will be voted on on May 24 at a meeting of the UEFA Executive Committee, with UEFA having already drafted a 100 page dossier on what is being dubbed Financial Fair Play 2.0.”

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      #13405
      Ray Lovemore
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        this could be legally incorrect clubs have the right to expect finances from any source as long as no law has been broken, eventually if all the big clubs spending is curbed they will form a breakaway league of which there will obviously be serious repercussions such as the international selections of top players to mention one issue only.

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        #13433
        Brian blue
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          UEFA need to take this long to work out a plan which will ultimately fail…but they do not care, they get there fat salaries and expenses. Are they trying to work out a system that you can only have so much money invested? How on earth do they propose that? As to debts…they need to look at themselve because the cost of running such an organisation should not be sky high, Programming is not expensive guys and they do little else to justify other than getting themselves prime seats for free They are a worthless bunch of hypocrites

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          #13434
          nine nine nine
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            Just to explain my post above comes from France and L’Equipe.

            Plenty of water to ow under this particular Bridge yet but l did post a while back that the new UEFA President was looking to beef up FFP.

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            #13440
            Chelsea.man
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              I can’t see that working 999. EUFA will have their first challenge from clubs if they plan to do so. and this could sound the end of this very much a joke FFFP thing.

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              #13513
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                It seems that they want to slowly turn football into the American franchise system. Clubs are going to be completely hamstrung if this goes through. I am not a huge fan of PSG/City buying success but this will also hurt every other ambitious club.

                Why don’t we just get rid of UEFA and let football carry on the way it was?

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                #13514
                nine nine nine
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                  Mak, UEFA will need to get the support of the club’s to make any of this happen and if the ECA don’t like it there is the spectre of a breakaway CL competition which would kill UEFA.

                  Be interesting to see what comes out of the meeting on May 24th. Cheers 999

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                  #13516
                  Chucky McChuckface
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                    UEFA FFP Rules = Tits on a fish…

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                    #13517
                    Brian blue
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                      It is not just City/PSG also Utd, Chelsea B. Munich/Real M. Barcelona, Juventas,Inter etc they have to put a case to and I cannot see them upsetting status quo. Maybe those clubs will think we can do without UEFA and that is when the possibilty of the American system may pop up. Football is looseing itself

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                      #13518
                      nine nine nine
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                        Brian, all good points mate.

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                        #14149
                        Chucky McChuckface
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                          Just a bump for this one…

                          I was reading a bit more about FFP2.0, it seems rather than link everything to income which is obviously not working, they’re going for a simple “NET SPEND” on transfers approach, with the number of 90 million loss per year being floated about. This would mean if a club spends 200million, they have to sell at least 110 million to stay within the 90 million loss.

                          Not the worst idea, certainly better than the current system I think.

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                          #14152
                          Ray Lovemore
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                            Big clubs to form their own union and leagues soon future

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                            #14154
                            Chucky McChuckface
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                              Probably right Raymondo, but I have to wonder if that were to happen, what would happen to international football? Because I somehow suspect the only card left to play is to ban players in would could be unsanctioned leagues from playing in international football, the national FA’S, UEFA and FIFA are going to want to have their cake and eat it too…

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                              #14155
                              Ray Lovemore
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                                interest in International football is not what it used to be, and also at the end of the day money talks more then playing for your country

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                                #14179
                                nine nine nine
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                                  Chucky, I think you’re right mate net spend works much better. Perhaps that’s why City are seemingly so active pre FFP2?

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                                  #14185
                                  Chucky McChuckface
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                                    Could be Goldie….

                                    Along with this net spend limit, I’d also like to see a limit on squad size too, one in one out so to speak, perhaps a limit of 30 players over 21 per club or something like that (I was literally typing that as I was thinking it!)

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