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    Hightown hope
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    Though I guess you can’t play Sterling, Sancho and Hudson-odoi in the same team.

    the other one who should start when fit is Loftus-Cheek.

    Pickford (though I’m not convinced Heaton or Pope aren’t better)

    Trent
    Gomez
    Stones / Maguire (maybe Keane)
    Chilwell

    RLC
    Henderson
    Barkley

    Sterling
    Kane
    Sancho

    …with Maddison, Rashford, CHO, and I suppose Alli as back up. Midfield worries me though. For obvious reasons I love Henderson, but with only Delph and Rice there as competition for his role, it doesn’t really inspire me. Can we agree that we can forget about Dier now? I guess Rose and Wan-Bissako will be the back up full backs for the time being, unless Shaw has a resurgence.

    So overall, a decent squad I would say, but certainly not world beaters

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    maverick1973
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    Maddison ahead of RLC for me,much more creative.Stones never again,unless he improves a great deal playing club football.Same goes for Shaw.

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    nine nine nine
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    Mav, currently I would agree as RLC only has one leg.😊

    But if RLC can get back fit and well he’s going to be some player he’s got the lot. Such a shame his development was stalled by his injury.

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    nine nine nine
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    …same with Hudson Odoi this boy could be enormous hopefully the injury hasn’t set him back too much.

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    Adlab
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    Bad mistakes from Stones and Barclay. Looking beyond club bias the problem for England is the VERY poor midfield. At City Stones is able to pass to a midfielder who can trap the ball, hold it and pass it like Fernandinho, Silva, Bernardo KDB, Gundogan etc.England have Barclay, Henderson,Delph, Rice…etc. I rest my case. The strikers get no proper service either.
    Bias here but the sooner Foden improves a bit the better. We have nobody like that.

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    Pagan
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    Adlab, England are what the premiere league would be like without the overseas players, hopefully this will change with the next generation of players who will be coached technically rather than just physically….Pagan

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    nine nine nine
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    We need to get both Foden and Maddison into the squad but that won’t happen as long as he’s not playing regularly for City.

    I’ve been critical of Barkley’s passing and ball retention for Chelsea but if we check the stats I think we’ll find he was one of England’s best players on Thursday night. His passing was accurate and it was a brilliant through ball for Lingard’s offside goal. Unfortunately the mistake at the end put a bit of a dampener on his performance.

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    nine nine nine
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    Adlab, Stones can’t get into the City team currently until he’s playing regularly for City week in week out and eliminating these errors from his game he shouldn’t be starting for England imo.

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    maverick1973
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    So then,who was better,Gerrard vs Lampard vs Scholes?

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    Pagan
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    Mav,

    Different types of players, Scholes was more physical and seemed to relish that side of the game, Lampard and Gerrard we’re more similar and there was nothing between them, both brought things to their teams, Gerrard leadership, Lampard goals. Yes I know Gerrard also scored plenty of goals but Chelsea haven’t had a consistent 20+ league goals a season striker since JFH.
    For me they’re all grouped together as quality players who were critical to their teams….Pagan

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    maverick1973
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    Peggy-How about………………. Fellaini?

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    Pagan
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    Mav, Fellani, often maligned by opposition fans, but wherever he’s played he’s scored important goals, not everyone’s cup of tea but always done his job….Pagan

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    Moos
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    Lampard, Gerrard and Scholes and esp. Beckham were all overated, none had that bit of sublime skill needed to qualify as a super great player, examples are Zola, Hazard, Henry, Giggs, or if you want to go to the ultimate level, Messi, Maradonna, Pele, Cruyf, Best.

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    maverick1973
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    I can’t see Foden getting the game time he needs at City unfortunately. I just don’t think Pep trusts him enough. I still fancy Jack Grealish at CM and it will be interesting to see if he can cut it in the PL next season.

    The one I still can’t understand is Rice. He’s been spoken about as a 50/60mil player but I just can’t see what the fuss is about. Him, Delph, Lingard, Dier, Alli all very average. Henderson I think could be ok with the right man next to him. Winks possibly worth a try there too. We just lack decent passers in the middle. Don’t know enough about other clubs’ academy products but Utd have a couple of very promising central midfielders coming through in James Garner and Angel Gomes. We’re a couple of good passing CMs and a solid CB away from a very good side. As usual with England, we all get carried away in defeat (just as we do in victory) . We’re not a million miles away from being up there. Remember, France, Spain, Germany, Croatia etc didn’t even make it as far as us so it’s not all bad.

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