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  • #54371
    nine nine nine
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      Stevo, this article must have been written by a Spurs fan. Personally I could never see Β£100m for Eriksen. Jose might talk him around but he’ll get a great deal for himself a la Ramsey if he signs a pre contract with one of the big European Clubs.

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      #54372
      nine nine nine
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        That’s the big question Blaze and if Levy does support Jose in the transfer market he basically thrown Poch under a train. Personally I think there will be limited support for Jose in the transfer market.

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        #54375
        steveosnakeeye
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          thats what the article alludes to though 999, regardless of if Erikson figures are acurate, i took as saying he is worth that even though they wont get that for him due to his contract, he has to be in the Β£80-Β£100m bracket for a MF? so to replace him with like would cost that much at least…before you start on the rest of the team and squad, so lose for free and pay that much to replace, and then you have the stadium and all the sponsors and everything, same as with united, they dont want to pay as much when the team isnt at the sharp end…it could very well be a 2-3 year gap cost saving excerice in one sense, tho if Levy does spend and support Maureen then as you say he really did a number on Poch!

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          #54382
          nine nine nine
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            Stevo, with a few years on his contract I think Spurs may have got maybe up to Β£75m for him. Bad management by Spurs though to lose him for nowt a la Arsenal with Ramsey.

            “If Levy does spend and support Maureen then as you say he really did a number on Poch!” Too true bud. ? Cheers 9’s

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            #54386
            Mikus LFC
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              Levy used Poch to keep them in the top 4, and Poch used the job as an opportunity to make a step up from Southampton. But Poch will have known what he was signing up for when he first came to the club in terms of the finances. And having known that he still signed a long 5 year contract extension last year knowing full well the conditions he would be working under.

              So for me Poch volunteered to walk under the train as much as Levy may have thrown there.

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              #54388
              nine nine nine
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                Mikus, that’s true but as per my post Poch would only have been throw under the train if having been denied funds by Levy, Levy released the funds to Jose.

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                #54389
                Mikus LFC
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                  And he’ll currently be counting his Β£12.5 million pay off whilst under the train. So I wouldn’t have too much sympathy with him.

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                  #54390
                  Mikus LFC
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                    Yes that’s fair Nine, though there does seem a lot of feeling in the media of over sympathising with Poch when as I say, he knew what he was signing up for and got paid handsomely for it.

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                    #54391
                    nine nine nine
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                      Mikus, of course although that applies to all the big name Manager who are contracted. But I guess Poch would have preferred the monetary support to build Spurs further if Jose is proven to get that support from Levy. But we’ll have to wait and see what happens.

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                      #54397
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                        I’ve always said I thought Poch had one of the easiest jobs in the PL. Let’s look at what he had to deal with:

                        – He had one of the top 3 squads in the league for probably his whole spell there
                        – He never lost a top player ala Wenger all those times, Liverpool with Coutinho, Utd with Ronaldo, Chelsea with Hazard etc.
                        – He was never expected to win a trophy. Had he been in the top 4 places even now, he’d still be there. He could even openly dismiss the desire to win a trophy despite being one of the highest paid managers in the league
                        – He had arguably the best striker in world football at his peak, a great midfield and a very good CB pairing
                        – He was never under any pressure it seemed, until they started plummeting down the league

                        So, for me, it’s no wonder he constantly talked about wanting to stay at Spurs for a long time. Who would give that up? At a bigger club, he’d have had to start winning things and be taken out of his comfort zone.

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                        #54400
                        maverick1973
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                          Really interesting to see what job he gets next. Munich would be absolutely huge for him In what terms,waspy?He will win the domestic double with easy,most probably reach the Quarters of the CL,or even the Semis,but will struggle to win the only title Bayern Munich aim for,like Pep did there.

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                          #54403
                          Hightown hope
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                            But Ed, doesn’t Poch earn a bit of credit for NOT losing any top players in his tenure. It would appear that they wanted and liked to play for him, until latterly anyway. And he had very little money to spend.

                            Mav – at least the Munich job would likely get the ‘no trophies’ monkey off his back.

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                            #54405
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                              Maybe the Bayern job would be exactly what he needs. He can’t help but win trophies there so he at least gets that box ticked off on his CV. Dortmund are not the competition they were previously.

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                              #54406
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                                Hightown, I’d say the reason they didn’t lose top players was more due to the well known difficulty in dealing with Levy rather than a desire to want to play for Poch. What would it cost to buy Kane? Even Lukaku has gone for over Β£70mil twice. Levy would have asked for Β£250mil+ for Kane. I’m not saying they should have lowered their prices. They have no need to sell so why would they? But that generally makes it difficult for top players to be snapped up

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                                #54412
                                maverick1973
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                                  Bayern would be the best option for Poch right now,sweep the domestic trophies and then aim for Real/Barca.

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                                  #54414
                                  Hightown hope
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                                    But Eriksen, Alderweireld and yes, Kane as well, are well known to be paid a fraction of what they could get at a number of clubs, but until recently they haven’t moaned about it and angled for a move. Why?

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                                    #54418
                                    nine nine nine
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                                      Eriksen and Alderwiereld’s contracts are in the last year and both will be free to leave in the Summer of 2020 and sign pre contracts in January whilst Kane’s contract runs until 2026 anyone who wanted to try and buy Kane would be screwed by Levy.

                                      I think part of Poch’s frustrations with the Club was about the contract situations of Eriksen etc.

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                                      #54419
                                      nine nine nine
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                                        Not so sure about that Mav Poch doesn’t speak German and he’s said he won’t go to Barca out of respect for Espanyol.

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                                        #54420
                                        maverick1973
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                                          9×3-Does Poch speak any lingo apart from Spanish?lol

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                                          #54421
                                          Luckydestiny
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                                            Bottom line here for me is that all the arguments used to support the idea that Poch overachieved at spurs dont stand up to scrutiny. Having said that, by no means could any one argue that he under achieved.

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