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I have never seen this Fury lad fight, besides a clip here or there. what do you lads think his chances would be like, both himself and Tyson in their prime.
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How in heavens name they allowed that goal for France is beyond comprehension, all of a sudden if the defender makes an attempt to intercept the pass he automatically makes the offside attacker onside, noone in the world even heard of that rule
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“Iron” Mike in his prime would have these other Tyson for breakfast 99/100, no doubt about it. This new Tyson can take a punch, for sure, but I doubt he could take enough of them to get past anything other than a punchers chance.
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Hi Chuck, I’m not so sure yes the earlier big time champions also had tremendous power and skill but most of them including the likes of Ali and Co. had a bit of a glass jaw when directly punched there, tbh to Tyson Fury he does seem to have that, Wilders strength is his right hand punch which has knocked out 40 of his wins, Fury also took it from him but got up on more than 4 occasions out of their fights.
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I think people tend to possibly forget how good a boxer “Iron” Mike actually was, before he went of the rails and basically relied on his “power”… I still occassionally watch some of the fights on Youtube, and you look at some of those pre-Buster Douglas fights, he had it all.
Anybody at that level always has a punchers chance, but Mike Tyson in his prime would take all the current heavy weights the vast majority of the time I reckon. He had the speed, the defence and the power to put everybody on the seat of their respective pants!
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Always like the infamous MT quote (when he was in his prime!)… “Everybody has a plan until I punch them in the mouth!”
(Or something very close to that!) 🙂
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Yeah but unlike fury banjo, iron mike never rose to overcome adversity in a fight, every time he was truly tested he lost, not my words either the words of Teddy atlas. Iron mike was phenomenal but like wilder in a way, his opponents lost before they stepped in to the ring. Although wilder nowhere near Mike of course.
Fury was asked about this himself and said Mike would win KO 1st round but imo that was fury being ultra respectful to his name sake. If wilder couldn’t land enough on fury with his range I honestly think fury could survive the first few danger rounds then take Mike the distance and either knock him out late like the average Douglas did or win a decision.
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And why is tyson protected and only judged on earlier years? The great ali came out of prison and was still great, Lewis beat vitali klitschko in his last fight at age of 38! Yet we can only judge Mike tyson on the fights he won pre Douglas? Ie his “prime” its bs imo its like saying you can only judge him on the fights he won, its myth, he was awesome but not as great as made out, holyfield, Lewis and fury all superior imo.
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I did start my “claim” about “Iron” Mike in his prime, cyber chum, and I have to agree that “old-man” Tyson would get whopped.
Personally, I think his downful begain when “Cus” D’Amato passed on, when Mike was still quite early in his overall career, that man kept him on the straight and narrow. After he passed, that’s when Mike went of the rails and “lost the plot”.
35 year old Mike vs 35 year old Fury, you’d probably be right, I reckon Fury would have the nous to beat him, especially the longer the fight went on…
But 24 year old Tyson… would have had him for breakfast!
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And no, Wilder is/was only ever a “power” boxer, I wouldn’t give him more than a punchers chance against just about any of the “oldies”… quite possibly the most overated heavyweight “champ” in the last 30/40 years…
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Mike Tyson is boxing’s Gazza…. could have had it all but off-field demons casued too many distractions… started off great…
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Had all his early fights on tape as kid banjo, loved Iron mike and recognise the greatness of his early years, the head movement and ferocity of his hooks and uppercuts. I also agree the loss of cus was massive.
He was the most naturally gifted puncher in history of boxing imo, that he couldn’t extend his dominance past 24 for me is a testament that he was lacking many of the ingredients that made the truly great, well truly great.
It’s a case of what could have been with Mike where as Ali, Holmes, holyfield, Lewis and even fury have had the inner strength and greatness to overcome the adversity they encountered and get back to the top of the mountain.
Did you ever see this clip bud, made me cry, Tyson is a good man now I truly believe it with all my heart
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I think young tyson beats young fury, but young tyson does not beat today’s fury, because when you have stared down the abyss, reached such lows and come back, aint nothing gonna scare you . This Fury would not have entered ring with legs trembling like berbick and spinks did and we have no idea to how young Mike would have handled that. I think it would have gone the way it went for Mike against buster Douglas honestly
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Young Mike vs today’s Fury… now that’s a match that’s too close to call in all honesty, but I would still put the housekeeping on Young Mike… Fury would try to “tie him up”, like he did to Wilder, but there was a fair few who also tried that with Young Mike too… and it didn’t work out too well for most of them!!
We can comment on Fury’s “bouncebackability” all we want, but it would still come down to Iron Mike’s “They’ve all got a plan until I smack them in the mouth!” to me… and I reckon he would get through Fury’s defence first before Fury would wear him down…
One for the eternal debate, cyber chum, but that would be a fight for the ages (or probably last 35 seconds!).. 🙂
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That’s fair enough banjo and it’s all hypothetical bud, it would have been an amazing fight.
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Tyson Fury has a great boxing IQ, tremendous size and probably the best in the clinch there’s ever been. I don’t think there’s ever been another what you would call “big” man that can box like Fury. His speed and movement, for someone who weighs over 270lbs and is over 6″9 is ridiculous. The fight with AJ doesn’t have the same sauce on it unfortunately, but I do think he needs to clean up the division to cement his legacy. that Includes AJ, Usyk, with Dillian Whyte(long overdue a title shot imo) being his next mandatory. He does all 3 of those, he can hang up knowing he was one of the true greats of the sport, being the only undefeated Heavyweight champ since Sly.
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I hope we see that Harry, love to see him give whyte his shot, then fight winner of Joshua vs usyk for all the belts. I think Usyk will beat AJ again and the sadist in me wants to see wilder vs AJ 😀
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He was 277 for Saturdays fight. Mad numbers Harry chum
Was Aj over hyped in the end? Fury would beat him easily no?
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I think AJ was most marketable and commercial. Perfect for British media, handsome and always following the script. Won at Olympics and perfect ambassador for British sport.
But there are levels to boxing and he never been elite, maybe never will. Part of his problem I think was believing the hype and he hasn’t been same since ruiz fight, some say since the klitschko fight.
I lost respect for him the moment he called Lennox lewis a clown for the crime of stating an opinion. He should have listened to Lennox.
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I’ve heard there’s a bit of bad blood between AJ and Lennox due to the former signing with Matchroom and not Lennox. Ever since there’s been petty back and forths. I think you’re right about him too Lucky, believed his own hype, taking stupid photos playing chess. You hit like a freight train AJ, stop trying to be too clever about it.
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