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  • #179444
    nine nine nine
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      All three games affecting the Club’s chasing the final two CL places are live on Sky simultaneously.

      Both Liverpool and Chelsea are substantial odds on favourites for the final two places but this is football.?

      Squeaky bum time. ๐Ÿ˜Š

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      #179445
      Luckydestiny
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        Yeah hell of a nervy final day for all 3 chasing top 4, but this is why we didn’t want the ESL, it has to be earned and you can’t beat the drama and tension it brings

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        #179447
        sean the sailor
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          All to play for lads. Be great with the fans. What an absolutely bizarre season

          Crowds make it so much more enjoyable. Great atmosphere at the bridge the other night

          Iโ€™ll be glad to see the back of it. Var and no fans have really made it difficult to watch at times

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          #179448
          Brian blue
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            Steve….spot on, with you all the way on the ESL point, however it is worth remembering that even UEFA favour “historical club value” so I do not see that much difference. All clubs, every season should start from zero but they should end with whatever they achieve. You can bet they will also found a way to stop same country appearing in a Final!!!!!!

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            #179449
            Brian blue
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              PS….I go back to an early topic of mine. Champions league should go to Champions only whoever that may be, it also takes care of the same country finals. If the want a “Euro league’ say of the 2/3/4 places…OK because that is what it is or if you like Champions league Div 2!!!!!! I know, I am being a little sarcastic but the Trade description act does not apply to UEFA apparently

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              #179450
              Brian blue
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                Sorry Lucky,,, I do not know what is wrong with me, keep mixing you up with Steve. Apolgies to both, just have laugh and me just whittling on about Trade description Act….You cannot make it up!!!!

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                #179452
                Luckydestiny
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                  Lol Brian no worries mate

                  You are right champions league and majority of teams not champions its should have been called champs league back in the day and the European Cup now!

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                  #179457
                  Nike19
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                    Gameweek 38 – Deadline Sunday 2:30 to get Teams in.

                    I can’t believe it’s finally going to be finished.

                    All emphasis on Top 4.

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                    #179459
                    Brian blue
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                      Never mind Final 4 Nil, I want City to give a strong performance, win, clean sheet against Everton and come through injury free. Last chance to show a match performance before next week.

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                      #179460
                      mancunian_mike
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                        Agree with you Sean, as much as football on TV has helped get many of us through the lockdown, no crowds and VAR have made it very difficult to watch. I’ll be glad to be back at the game on Sunday but I recall VAR really affecting the enjoyment of being there and adding a negative atmosphere at the games before lockdown – I think the most sung song in the South Stand at the Etihad was ‘F— VAR’ ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                        #179461
                        sean the sailor
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                          What gets me Mike is, itโ€™s ruining the enjoyment for fans to celebrate goals

                          Thatโ€™s my main issue. I didnโ€™t budge for Alisons goal last week as I thought var would find something to rule it out. That was such a big moment and I should have been going through the roof for that

                          Bobbys goals againest utd aswell. I just sat there. Being a fan is about enjoying that moment. Itโ€™s difficult to do that anymore mate

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                          #179462
                          Mikus LFC
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                            Take the ridiculous offside decision against Chelsea in the FA Cup final. Years ago, pundits wouldn’t have even questioned it – they would have said they were level. But some now say, “well it’s offside.” So all this is now in danger of being normalised. This is what happens. People just start accepting it. And years down the line, it becomes normal.

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                            #179464
                            Nike19
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                              Half of my celebration for Allison’s header was diluted with hesitancy. It’s because of what we’ve experienced, this is more of the way fans react.

                              In most cases instinctively I’ll cheer as normal ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜€โšฝ๏ธ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

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                              #179465
                              Luckydestiny
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                                Mikus I am 37 and almost cried when that goal was disallowed!

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                                #179466
                                Mikus LFC
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                                  It’s just not right Lucky. But I have little faith in the authorities to put things right. And the danger now is that people are starting to accept it. And once that happens, it won’t be changed.

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                                  #179468
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    I’m not against VAR particularly for offsides but Chilwell’s goal being ruled out for offside in the Cup Final was particularly cruel.

                                    VAR for offsides is very accurate imo but goals have to be ruled out for feet being in an offside position and not a portion of the hand.

                                    It’s taking the fun out of football, football is all about the joy of scoring goals not trying to rule them out be ridiculous margins with just a small portion of the hand being offside.

                                    Chelsea fans have had to swallow a number of poor decisions in the last week v Arsenal, v Leicester in the Cup Final and v Leicester again in the PL with a definite hand ball v Arsenal in the penalty area and no penalty being awarded and the obvious penalty in the first half v Leicester not being awarded for the foul on Werner but neither were the fault of the technology both were down to the inefficiencies of the officials. So really in that respect nothings changed!

                                    I’m hoping this Summer common sense amends the current offside rules that saw Chilwell’s goal being ruled out in the Cup Final for a portion of his hand being in an offside position but I’m not holding my breath and it won’t change the outcome of the Cup Final.

                                    But dangerously the fans have had enough of the inefficiencies and silly offside decisions as the Chelsea fans made plain on Tuesday night.

                                    They say that these things even themselves out over a season but Chelsea have only got two games left to test that theory. I know such things effect everyone but nobody has had to suck on it in a Cup Final.

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                                    #179471
                                    mancunian_mike
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                                      Agree with all those points folks, that’s the exact issue with VAR for me, it makes it pointless to go to the game if you are gonna remove the instant where fans celebrate goals. It happened so many times last season before lockdown that we just weren’t celebrating goals in the ground because you didn’t know if it would be ruled out or not. The typical scenario for me is this (sorry I’ll use City player names for ease)…Corner to the opposition…cross comes in, Diaz heads it out and its picked up on the edge of the box by Gundogan; he turns, beats a man, plays a through ball to the wing to the onrushing Foden; the crowd to a man glance at the linesman, he keeps his flag down as he tries to keep up…Foden races down the wing, cuts inside, plays a low ball straight across the box, the defender slides but can’t reach it…Mahrez arrives at the back post and smashes it past the helpless keeper; the crowd go wild…….oh wait…..VAR check…..possible offside in the build-up…..the crowd go silent and begin voicing there displeasure; both teams walk sullenly back to the centre circle whilst they await the outcome…some time goes by…it doesn’t really matter how much…and the referee confirms the VAR check is complete and its a goal…or its not a goal…who f@&$ing cares…certainly nobody in the stands. Scrap VAR now.

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                                      #179494
                                      Notnice
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                                        Anyone know if the England squad has been selected yet or is it only after Sundays games?

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                                        #179496
                                        Pagan
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                                          Is VAR accurate enough for the offside decisions weโ€™ve seen all season, 9 thinks so but I donโ€™t. As Iโ€™ve said countless times, itโ€™s a best guess when the ball is played forward and itโ€™s up to the VAR where he decides to draw the lines from, both are subjective and as such can be tweaked to get the result you want.

                                          As for itโ€™s where the feet are, the one major issue with that is if you have two players dead in line running in step, then the offensive player is onside, if theyโ€™re out of step then theyโ€™re offside 50% of the time, yet theyโ€™re still level.

                                          VAR was sold on clear and obvious errors, not on forensic examination, get rid of the lines, use the technology to rotate the picture and then see if thereโ€™s a clear and obvious error.

                                          Or even better, just get rid of it all together……Pagan

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                                          #179497
                                          Blaze
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                                            I don’t know how anyone can be against var, I understand it limits certain issues like celebrations and holds up the game but would you rather have unfair and illegal decisions!? Not for me I am a stickler when it comes to justice, my team Chelsea have had it very rough with var this season but but ultimately they were the right decisions so one cannot have complaints or regrets. There is clearly a need for improving the off side rule but one shouldn’t worry about other issues. The correct decision is vitally important for the good of the game.

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